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In reply to the discussion: Online Propaganda - Invisible Tool of Secret Government [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)42. Thank you, Oilwellian! Here's how this whole ball of antiterror police state wax got rolling...
From Christopher Simpson, info on how Poppy started the big ball of wax when he pried control out of the bed-ridden Ronald Reagan:
George Bush Takes Charge: The Uses of "Counter-Terrorism"
By Christopher Simpson
Covert Action Quarterly 58
A paper trail of declassified documents from the Reagan-Bush era yields valuable information on how counter-terrorism provided a powerful mechanism for solidifying Bush's power base and launching a broad range of national security initiatives.
During the Reagan years, George Bush used "crisis management" and "counter-terrorism" as vehicles for running key parts of the clandestine side of the US government.
Bush proved especially adept at plausible denial. Some measure of his skill in avoiding responsibility can be taken from the fact that even after the Iran-Contra affair blew the Reagan administration apart, Bush went on to become the "foreign policy president," while CIA Director William Casey, by then conveniently dead, took most of the blame for a number of covert foreign policy debacles that Bush had set in motion.
The trail of National Security Decision Directives (NSDDS) left by the Reagan administration begins to tell the story. True, much remains classified, and still more was never committed to paper in the first place. Even so, the main picture is clear: As vice president, George Bush was at the center of secret wars, political murders, and America's convoluted oil politics in the Middle East.
SNIP...
Reagan and the NSC also used NSDDs to settle conflicts among security agencies over bureaucratic turf and lines of command. It is through that prism that we see the first glimmers of Vice President Bush's role in clandestine operations during the 1980s.
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Bush coming up with a way to run the show through the war on terror was 1981 or so, before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Looking back, it's clear how they have turned all the powers they once used on the USSR on the American people, making these gangster times.
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Yes, it is Un-American. GCHQ and JTRIG are British intel divisions. This is not an NSA program. nt
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#62
Yes, I'm sure it was presented in-depth to the NSA because they had no interest in it.
Marr
Mar 2014
#104
Bamford spelled out the situation. Two weeks later, the Pentagon dropped the I-Bomb.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#14
Oooh! I wonder too! Shifting eyes back and forth... back and forth. And don't forget there's a team!
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
#77
Other tactics aimed at individuals are listed here, under the revealing title “discredit a target”:
Octafish
Mar 2014
#27
Absolutely, there are some classic examples of that here. But the good thing is we recognize them.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#57
Yes, it's hard to believe Greenwald would pass off British intel as an NSA program.
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#59
Thanks for mentioning Greenwald. The smear campaign against HIM is a perfect example of the OP.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#70
Thank you, Oilwellian! Here's how this whole ball of antiterror police state wax got rolling...
Octafish
Mar 2014
#42
SidDithers SOP. Nothing to say about the issue, so use 'LOL' to ridicule Greenwald.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#23
You must be thinking of Latest Breaking News. That DU forum runs articles just once.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#28
I think Intercept is proving its true colors by passing this off as an NSA program. It isn't. nt
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#53
It was GREENWALD who called out Bush and Cheney on ILLEGAL N.S.A. Spying back in 2007.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#68
Here's a link: "The JTRIG is a unit of the GCHQ, the British intelligence agency." B-R-I-T-I-S-H.
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#56
Yes. And sending that info right back at us. 5 eyes. How to bypass ever english speaking
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
#80
Well, elderly next door neighbors are under a bit of a stress and we do all that we can to help out
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
#84
Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; Lord Acton
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#78
Thankfully if you look at recs and replies alone, most DUers are not fooled by the propaganda.
Rex
Mar 2014
#129
Followed a link from another DU'er who puts great stock in your information.
Judi Lynn
Apr 2014
#136