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In reply to the discussion: Online Propaganda - Invisible Tool of Secret Government [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)94. You are most welcome, Aerows!
Some of what Assange told SXSW:
Julian Assange tells SXSW audience: NSA has grown to be a rogue agency
Wikileaks founder: All of us have to do something
Interview conducted from Ecuadors London embassy
Snowden and Greenwald also set to appear at SXSW
Stuart Dredge in Austin, Texas
theguardian.com, Saturday 8 March 2014 14.03 EST
EXCERPT...
It became clear to me that one of the best ways to achieve justice is to expose injustice. And you can be simplistic about it, which some people are. Its not that when you expose something automatically there is justice, he said. Instead, he said: Theres always a really decent chance that theyre not going to get away with it, and the people affected can take some kind of action. And theres no confidence in the power being deployed. No confidence in the injustice.
Assange was asked about whether, thanks to the NSA revelations, the web was under threat. He pointed to comments made this week by a US military figure about a bill being put to Congress to try to stop publication of material about the National Security Agency, backed by new cyberterrorism legislation.
There is a really serious attempt to try and stop these revelations and others, and introduce a new international regime of censorship, he said, pointing to the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) agreement as a particular threat.
Now that the internet has merged with human society the laws that apply to the internet apply to human society. This penetration of the internet by the NSA and [British spy agency] GCHQ is the penetration of our human society. It means there has been a militarisation of our civilian space. A military occupation of our civilian space is a very serious matter.
Assange attacked what he sees as the powerlessness of even the most theoretically powerful politicians, and asked what would happen if President Barack Obama said tomorrow he was immediately disbanding the NSA, or even the CIA. On paper he has that power, but we all know that this is simply impossible, he said. People would come up with lots of dirt attacking him in some manner the National Security Agency has dirt on everyone.
CONTINUED...
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/mar/08/julian-assange-wikileaks-nsa-sxsw
PS: Your words mean the world to me, as you are one of the kind people on DU.
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Yes, it is Un-American. GCHQ and JTRIG are British intel divisions. This is not an NSA program. nt
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#62
Yes, I'm sure it was presented in-depth to the NSA because they had no interest in it.
Marr
Mar 2014
#104
Bamford spelled out the situation. Two weeks later, the Pentagon dropped the I-Bomb.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#14
Oooh! I wonder too! Shifting eyes back and forth... back and forth. And don't forget there's a team!
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
#77
Other tactics aimed at individuals are listed here, under the revealing title “discredit a target”:
Octafish
Mar 2014
#27
Absolutely, there are some classic examples of that here. But the good thing is we recognize them.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#57
Yes, it's hard to believe Greenwald would pass off British intel as an NSA program.
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#59
Thanks for mentioning Greenwald. The smear campaign against HIM is a perfect example of the OP.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#70
Thank you, Oilwellian! Here's how this whole ball of antiterror police state wax got rolling...
Octafish
Mar 2014
#42
SidDithers SOP. Nothing to say about the issue, so use 'LOL' to ridicule Greenwald.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#23
You must be thinking of Latest Breaking News. That DU forum runs articles just once.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#28
I think Intercept is proving its true colors by passing this off as an NSA program. It isn't. nt
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#53
It was GREENWALD who called out Bush and Cheney on ILLEGAL N.S.A. Spying back in 2007.
Octafish
Mar 2014
#68
Here's a link: "The JTRIG is a unit of the GCHQ, the British intelligence agency." B-R-I-T-I-S-H.
ucrdem
Mar 2014
#56
Yes. And sending that info right back at us. 5 eyes. How to bypass ever english speaking
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
#80
Well, elderly next door neighbors are under a bit of a stress and we do all that we can to help out
Luminous Animal
Mar 2014
#84
Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; Lord Acton
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#78
Thankfully if you look at recs and replies alone, most DUers are not fooled by the propaganda.
Rex
Mar 2014
#129
Followed a link from another DU'er who puts great stock in your information.
Judi Lynn
Apr 2014
#136