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In reply to the discussion: The used car salesman strikes again [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)205. I see the dangers of prosecuting elected officials. I also see the danger of never prosecuting
War Criminals, and have to weigh which is more of a threat to this country.
Nixon resigned, rather than face impeachment. It did not destroy this country when what he did was exposed and he was forced from office. If anything, it made it better.
Your way ensures that criminals can run for office, use that powerful office to commit massive crimes without fear of consequences.
If as you say it would destroy this country to apply the rule of law to major criminals who have abused their power and the trust of the people, then something has gone very wrong with this democracy.
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The 'You Did It Too' Line Taken Against Criticism Of Putin In Crimea, Sir
The Magistrate
Mar 2014
#1
Regarding Iraq, Sir, The Man Is Being Held Responsible For a Policy He Opposed
The Magistrate
Mar 2014
#63
Obama's responsible for failing, while President, to prosecute war crimes/criminals
Divernan
Mar 2014
#174
I don't know with absolute certainty, but I intuit the implication to be "dangerous" to Obama's Life
2banon
Mar 2014
#488
See his reply #217....Nixon/Clinton I think it goes to what he was thinking as to why
KoKo
Mar 2014
#490
Yes, things have consequences, but some consequences are worse than others
mindwalker_i
Mar 2014
#360
In my view, a dicey exercise is night patrol in Iraq. Not prosecuting real crime.
grahamhgreen
Mar 2014
#577
Risking a Country's Political Functioning, Sir, Does Not Strike Me As A Slight Matter
The Magistrate
Mar 2014
#582
That is exactly what you risk by failing to prosecute known corruption and criminality, IMHO.
grahamhgreen
Mar 2014
#584
The beauty of the American system is that it is able to shake off periods of rampant criminality
theboss
Mar 2014
#694
It steams me too because we didn't 'do it too' we did much, much worse to the point that it boggles
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#712
And I would not be surprised if this message was not given to President Obama...
kentuck
Mar 2014
#428
All he had to say was 'I did not support that invasion' and then return to the US and start talking
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#639
Agreed. Obama is CEO head cheese of this huge corporation called The United States
Whisp
Mar 2014
#333
Yeah but there is still one big difference....we didn't keep Iraq....largely because this President
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#644
Actually QUITE the opposite...the President Obama has NO connection to Russia'a annexation of
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#703
There is another way to avoid people pointing out 'you did worse', not 'you did it too' btw.
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#173
I see the dangers of prosecuting elected officials. I also see the danger of never prosecuting
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#205
The solution is to send the evidence to the Hague and cooperate with them so that
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#209
You are right. So, when the US opted out of the ICC (and the current admin didn't rejoin)
BelgianMadCow
Mar 2014
#427
To use a legal term, what President Obama did was to distinguish the Iraq war from Crimea
Gothmog
Mar 2014
#556
You are correct, the Valkyrie-like propaganda swarm notwithstanding. nt
woo me with science
Mar 2014
#16
Anyone who puts Obama in the same flea bag is not seeing things in true perspective.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#363
Say what? You do realize that BushCo lied and presented knowingly false evidence to the UN, right?
cui bono
Mar 2014
#650
Prosecuting war criminals is absoutley NOT "a revenge oriented exercise in futility".
cui bono
Mar 2014
#696
No, you're right, we just stayed there for 11 years and fucked it up beyond recognition...
truebrit71
Mar 2014
#673
I'm sorry, how many tens of thousands were killed in the annexation of Crimea...??
truebrit71
Mar 2014
#679
Maybe you interpreted Obama's statments about Iraq as justifying Bush's War without truly
lumpy
Mar 2014
#283
I agree with you. Why he didn't use a more direct approach emphasizing how he and most
lumpy
Mar 2014
#331
I agree. However I don't agree Obama commited a 'wrong'. The Iraq part of his speech was not
lumpy
Mar 2014
#394
It'll be too late by then. And supporting Democrats on DU will never happen again.
freshwest
Mar 2014
#498
More evidence she sneeks a peek at her 'Iggy' list and actually learns something
Brother Buzz
Mar 2014
#484
When my kids used to yell loudly, be demanding and lippy they didn't get the response they were
lumpy
Mar 2014
#381
I am disappointed the President didn't do a good job in phrasing his response regarding Iraq War.
lumpy
Mar 2014
#449
Ultimately...this is the administrator's sandbox, and I will abide by any decision they make. But I
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#277
Well...I think we have it within our power to voice our discontent. All alerts go to admin, and
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#318
Sweet, sweet Omidayar money abounds in the leftie blogosphere....you'll note the
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#351
There is little money for the "Left" to make during times of effective Democratic
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#569
"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". -nt
Liberal Veteran
Mar 2014
#348
This place needs more principled disagreeement and less pandering to prevailing views.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2014
#370
I agree there should be criticism of the President...but calling him a "piece of shit" and posting
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#374
Like I said, I disagree with both the content and the style on this topic.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2014
#379
We aren't on Snowden Underground. I've yet to read anything in the TOS that
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#497
And? If you think calling someone a "piece of shit" is merely criticism, then may I call you
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#502
You are defending the man who used that term against the President. If that's what you see as
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#528
Um no...some of us actually read the NYT in 2006 and aren't unaware of what FISA empowers
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#527
Sigh....one does expect one to know the history of what one is railing against.
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#542
If he was upset about Loophole section 702, he could easily have taken to the
truedelphi
Mar 2014
#710
I never want to hear another fucking thing from these worshippers about Pres Obama's
Cha
Mar 2014
#702
I changed my Einstein avatar, but nice to know you keep watch! I am sorry you've taken umbrage
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#563
The shame is that you do not 'get' that it is your terms that are the problem
Ohio Joe
Mar 2014
#310
You called the President a "piece of shit." Therefore, you've done what Virginia
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#336
He says he "calls it like I see it".. too bad he's blinded by his own ignorant hate.
Cha
Mar 2014
#643
Nadin, we are on a partisan Democratic website. With a TOS that has a stated purpose of
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#389
I want an explanation of the "hypocrisy" the admin are guilty of. I think that could be
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#448
Poor Dubya? The only one complaining about this form of "hypocrisy" is you
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#413
Too many 'editorial writers' inject their own angry 'nose out of joint' opinions neglecting
lumpy
Mar 2014
#440
Mr. Pitts writings do not anger me, I believe his opinions do result in irrational anger with
lumpy
Mar 2014
#463
I don't give a tinkers dam if Obama's policies etc.are criticized. I do give a damn when the
lumpy
Mar 2014
#487
First, if you want to claim any integrity at all in this matter, "piece of shit used car salesman"
BeyondGeography
Mar 2014
#442
Doing all of that will not help you get a job writing Obama-bashing tripe elsewhere.
Ikonoklast
Mar 2014
#590
Precisely.. "Some of us don't like seeing the president insulted." There's enough of
Cha
Mar 2014
#594
I'm surprised to see your decision to speak for anyone other than yourself...
MrMickeysMom
Mar 2014
#532
I think the owner of the board posting what you posted means "You better stop or else". nt
Logical
Mar 2014
#547
Disappointed that this is the only thing I've seen you express your disappointmet of on here.
cui bono
Mar 2014
#651
Rick Warren was the very first notification that we'd been sold a bill of goods...
truebrit71
Mar 2014
#102
If I were you I'd worry more about your own 2 hidden posts you got so soon after
cui bono
Mar 2014
#653
The truth is that Obama condemed the Iraq war; he neglected to stress that truth to his
lumpy
Mar 2014
#478
Excellent point, Myrina. I almost forgot about that part of how the book happened.
Whisp
Mar 2014
#686
Its not truth, the OP and anyone else saying Obama is defending Iraq is a LIAR.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#228
Because of his postions? Or do you not bother to grasp the content of his posts?
cui bono
Mar 2014
#655
Nope not gonna do it...and it's getting sort of stupid to keep repeating the obvious.
Sheepshank
Mar 2014
#298
Yeah, occupation is not annexation. no matter how many vitriolic posts you spew.
Richardo
Mar 2014
#73
same with Social Security--"aright, we won't cut SS--but it's definitely a big cause of our deficit
MisterP
Mar 2014
#415
personal attacks? Well at least I didn't call you PIECE OF SHIT USED CAR SALESMAN
stg81
Mar 2014
#504
No mental gymnastics needed, of course now we are both going to get labeled as Putin lovers
Rex
Mar 2014
#157
You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye Who cheer when soldier lads march by...
LanternWaste
Mar 2014
#112
The difference is that this is a Democratic progressive site, not a place to hate on
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#202
I have no problem with criticism of any office holder of any party. Criticism doesn't equal hate.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#262
Criticism is welcome. The hating, slurs, profanity, and cursing out directed toward Obama is not.
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#387
Being provocative and wrong isn't the worlds biggest sin, provided you're being honest.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2014
#329
In my town, in real life, they love the new Will Pitt. It is a tea party place.
bravenak
Mar 2014
#409
More crud for right wingers to cite against us. From photos, Obama couldn't maintain straight face.
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#160
Lately, you seem unable to compose any post about the President that doesn't include name-calling,
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#161
You can post whatever you want...and people have the right to put you on IGNORE if they don't like
antigop
Mar 2014
#598
If I'd ignored his posts, I wouldn't have been able to correct the false statements
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#606
Your choice...you can CHOOSE to put him on IGNORE. Or not. It's that simple. nt
antigop
Mar 2014
#616
I choose to answer him instead. You chose to tell me I should just ignore him. I disagree. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#617
I DID live with it. I said what I thought of his posts, instead of following your wish
pnwmom
Mar 2014
#624
seems like he is trying to weaken and change the meaning of a word, in this case 'annexation' nt
Bodhi BloodWave
Mar 2014
#510
Seems he has chosen to respond to himself instead of those who find this post to be
Number23
Mar 2014
#579
I find this post (and several others you have made recently in the same vein) offensive.
IdaBriggs
Mar 2014
#218
Well, at the very least, you dispelled the notion your last comment was just an emotional outburst.
Liberal Veteran
Mar 2014
#226
Yes. It sort of makes me wonder if there isn't some 'portfolio management' going on.
HereSince1628
Mar 2014
#245
If Obama is a used car salesman, you must be selling door to door vacuum cleaners.
phleshdef
Mar 2014
#227
Clear difference between grabbing land by force versus not grabbing land. See it. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Mar 2014
#244
Obama needs a history lesson in the last 60 years of violent and brutal US Foreign policy
Catherina
Mar 2014
#296
+1000. That was the proper thing to say. It's worrisome that he couldn't say that.
Catherina
Mar 2014
#344
Nobody invaded Crimea, unless you want to count Nuland and her $5 Billion for regime change.
Catherina
Mar 2014
#337
That all you got? Very sad. The same people who opposed Bush on principle, not emotionally
Catherina
Mar 2014
#391
Your list doesn't include the 1953 overthrow of Iran's Mohammed Mossadeq
nationalize the fed
Mar 2014
#386
I've posted my thoughts about Will's OP. I've also recced other OPs on both sides
CJCRANE
Mar 2014
#330
From where I stand, that train already left the station a while back. -nt
Liberal Veteran
Mar 2014
#359
How is Congress supposed to act boldly in their investigations if the CIA is watching all they do?
cui bono
Mar 2014
#663
You didn't make a point. You said "We got out" and then launched into some word salad
cui bono
Mar 2014
#664
Interesting KOS has had it with the 3rd Way, DLC. Maybe DU didn't change
HereSince1628
Mar 2014
#398
You have much more patience than I do, I feel like I'm watching an occult surface and it's not so
AuntPatsy
Mar 2014
#612
Actually, being compared to GG would be viewed as high praise by a true progressive.
NorthCarolina
Mar 2014
#692
I would have taken the opposite tack and said, "We fucked up in Iraq and we're sorry."
alarimer
Mar 2014
#516
I would LOVE to have seen the shitstorm that would've erupted had Obama replied:
brett_jv
Mar 2014
#518
Thank you for not allowing the howling Blue Dog contingent to intimidate you, Will.
Raksha
Mar 2014
#537
It's no wonder Kucinich didn't have an ice cube chance's in Hell as a candidate.
Ikonoklast
Mar 2014
#571
They sure get testy when the facts don't fit their narative, Will. Don't stop pointing out their
marble falls
Mar 2014
#583
"Used Car Salesman" IS TOTALLY innapropriate!!!!! The 'C' should be swapped for a 'W' :-)
grahamhgreen
Mar 2014
#587
Doubling down I see.....so are you trying to see how far you can push the limits of the
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#627
They even admit it outright now.....they think they have quite literally bought DU!
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#642
So what did you want him to say....lie and say that they didn't instead...
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#680
While I agree with the sentiment of the post, I would not have said "used car salesman" again.
cui bono
Mar 2014
#666