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In reply to the discussion: Sorry, but I don't buy the "But we couldn't have gotten single-payer" defense [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)104. Yup. "100 million Americans who’ve gained..."
The OP statement is beyond absurd.
Statement by the President on the Fourth Anniversary of the Affordable Care Act
Since I signed the Affordable Care Act into law, the share of Americans with insurance is up, and the growth of health care costs is down, to its slowest rate in fifty years two of the most promising developments for our middle class and our fiscal future in a long time.
More Americans with insurance have gained new benefits and protections the 100 million Americans whove gained the right to free preventive care like mammograms and contraception, the eight million seniors whove saved thousands of dollars on their prescription drugs, and the untold number of families who wont be driven into bankruptcy by out-of-pocket costs, because this law prevents insurers from placing dollar limits on the care you can receive.
More Americans without insurance have gained coverage. Over the past four years, over three million young Americans have been able to stay on their family plans. And over the past five and a half months alone, more than five million Americans have signed up to buy private health insurance plans on HealthCare.gov plans that can no longer discriminate against preexisting conditions or charge you more just because youre a woman or a cancer survivor and millions more have enrolled in Medicaid.
It is these numbers, and the stories behind each one of them, that will ultimately determine the fate of this law. It is the measurable outcomes in savings for families and businesses, healthier kids with better performance in schools, seniors with more money to spend because theyre paying less for their medicine, and young entrepreneurs wholl have the freedom to try new jobs or chase that new idea that will ultimately offer more security and peace of mind to more Americans who work hard to get ahead.
Last month, after her first wellness visit under her new insurance plan, a woman from Colorado shared with me what that peace of mind meant to her. After using my new insurance for the first time, you probably heard my sigh of relief from the White House, she wrote. I felt like a human being again. I felt that I had value.
This is whats at stake any time anyone, out of some outdated obsession, pledges to repeal or undermine the Affordable Care Act. And thats why my administration will spend the fifth year of this law and beyond working to implement and improve on it.
If youre an American who wants to get covered or if you know someone who should its now last call for 2014. March 31st is the deadline to get covered this year. So check out HealthCare.gov or call 1-800-318-2596 to see what new choices are available to you, and get covered today.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/23/statement-president-fourth-anniversary-affordable-care-act
Since I signed the Affordable Care Act into law, the share of Americans with insurance is up, and the growth of health care costs is down, to its slowest rate in fifty years two of the most promising developments for our middle class and our fiscal future in a long time.
More Americans with insurance have gained new benefits and protections the 100 million Americans whove gained the right to free preventive care like mammograms and contraception, the eight million seniors whove saved thousands of dollars on their prescription drugs, and the untold number of families who wont be driven into bankruptcy by out-of-pocket costs, because this law prevents insurers from placing dollar limits on the care you can receive.
More Americans without insurance have gained coverage. Over the past four years, over three million young Americans have been able to stay on their family plans. And over the past five and a half months alone, more than five million Americans have signed up to buy private health insurance plans on HealthCare.gov plans that can no longer discriminate against preexisting conditions or charge you more just because youre a woman or a cancer survivor and millions more have enrolled in Medicaid.
It is these numbers, and the stories behind each one of them, that will ultimately determine the fate of this law. It is the measurable outcomes in savings for families and businesses, healthier kids with better performance in schools, seniors with more money to spend because theyre paying less for their medicine, and young entrepreneurs wholl have the freedom to try new jobs or chase that new idea that will ultimately offer more security and peace of mind to more Americans who work hard to get ahead.
Last month, after her first wellness visit under her new insurance plan, a woman from Colorado shared with me what that peace of mind meant to her. After using my new insurance for the first time, you probably heard my sigh of relief from the White House, she wrote. I felt like a human being again. I felt that I had value.
This is whats at stake any time anyone, out of some outdated obsession, pledges to repeal or undermine the Affordable Care Act. And thats why my administration will spend the fifth year of this law and beyond working to implement and improve on it.
If youre an American who wants to get covered or if you know someone who should its now last call for 2014. March 31st is the deadline to get covered this year. So check out HealthCare.gov or call 1-800-318-2596 to see what new choices are available to you, and get covered today.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/03/23/statement-president-fourth-anniversary-affordable-care-act
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Sorry, but I don't buy the "But we couldn't have gotten single-payer" defense [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2014
OP
Maybe but I do believe they could have got a Medicare buy in if they had tried, they didn't
ebbie15644
Mar 2014
#91
Too many conservative Dems remain in the party to push for any meaningful progressive reform. nt
NorthCarolina
Mar 2014
#134
At least three of the people I love most in this world have "pre-existing" conditions, so ...
dawg
Mar 2014
#3
Is it just a sad coincidence that insurance has jacked-up the cost of healthcare to the point
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2014
#9
Sadly, I have resigned myself to the fact that the corporatists are in power and aren't letting go.
dawg
Mar 2014
#17
I think the President was well intentioned, but I also think he has bought into much of the ...
dawg
Mar 2014
#22
How can we have Single Payer, when they throw people in jail for advocating for the Public Option?
RC
Mar 2014
#6
It was not advocating for single payer, but repeatedly disrupting a Senate hearing
karynnj
Mar 2014
#57
There was NO entitlement for them to have speaking time at a committee hearing
karynnj
Mar 2014
#150
Medicare and Medicaid are in fact single payer. The VA is pure Socialized Medicine.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#27
It's pretty simple. Conservative Dems wouldn't have voted for single payer. End of argument.
DanTex
Mar 2014
#16
Let's test your argument more directly. I'll spot you every bluedog Senator ...
JoePhilly
Mar 2014
#19
Well ... but we did have total control of the House and Senate for 2 years ... damn it!!
JoePhilly
Mar 2014
#74
Rahm's argument was not that we should strive for something worth the backlash but that
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#31
How does that relate to my point that the OP is not making the same argument as Rahm?
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#37
Okay, I'm wrong. This is the besest healthcare policy EVAH! and only a fool would argue against it!
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2014
#58
What's something more progressive that would have kept enough D votes to pass?
Recursion
Mar 2014
#52
My point is about the feasbility of Single Payer. How do you get from Point A to Point Z?
CJCRANE
Mar 2014
#50
21 States have refused to consider Medicaid expansion. 27 have expanded it.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#49
I too would have liked to see the single payer option, it did not happen, they passed the GOP option
Thinkingabout
Mar 2014
#42
Single Payer was not possible as many Democratic Senators were philosophically against it
karynnj
Mar 2014
#47
Strange that with a Dem WH, House, Senate, we got a Republican health insurance plan
Doctor_J
Mar 2014
#65
You might try reading instead of a knee-jerk defense of president Reagan/Obama
Doctor_J
Mar 2014
#121
"abomination of a law that has pissed off more people than it has helped" - Bullshit.
NYC Liberal
Mar 2014
#93
If the Dems had really wanted some progress on HC, at the very least Medicare would have begun at 60
Doctor_J
Mar 2014
#123
There was one thing standing in our way, which maybe you've failed to account for:
kenny blankenship
Mar 2014
#127
No way this Congress would have taken on the risk of single payer, I'm not even sure Public Option
Hoyt
Mar 2014
#135
According to your profile, you were not on this site back in the Summer of 2009
truedelphi
Mar 2014
#152