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51. "CHEENEE knew." Shrub, Rums, all knew. CIA didn't "deceive" anybody, was carrying out policy

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Tue Apr 1, 2014, 09:17 PM

Apr 2014

And just about all of us here knew and objected.

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CIA TORTURE: It Was Worse Than Anyone Knew [View all] grahamhgreen Apr 2014 OP

But...but...we must look ahead. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #1

Past tense? 1000words Apr 2014 #2

Maybe not stopped RobertEarl Apr 2014 #6

Isn't any torture an "overreach?" 1000words Apr 2014 #10

Yes it is RobertEarl Apr 2014 #11

RobertEarl: "Obama has wound it down" delrem Apr 2014 #22

In my view, prosecuting torture is looking forward. We're all looking forward to it! grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #32

Excuse me, but rendition is still happening and rendition = torture. grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #20

Gitmo is still open RobertEarl Apr 2014 #21

Gitmo is still open because neocons still rule. delrem Apr 2014 #23

This is nonsense. ProSense Apr 2014 #31

Google it. nt delrem Apr 2014 #33

I don't have to. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #34

Well, if you wish to remain ignorant... delrem Apr 2014 #37

Interestingly, ProSense Apr 2014 #41

Just... (expletives deleted) GOOGLE IT! shee. nt delrem Apr 2014 #42

Upset that you're misinformed? n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #46

oh my lord. So now I've met ProSense. delrem Apr 2014 #47

I wish you hadn't ProSense Apr 2014 #49

Well then, can we agree to fuckin well avoid each other in future, ProSense? delrem Apr 2014 #50

You can always put him on ignore, Raksha Apr 2014 #59

Nah. I have only one person on ignore, delrem Apr 2014 #62

Just ignore her lark Apr 2014 #91

Nailed It. bvar22 Apr 2014 #92

First, you will agree that rendition = kidnapping, right? grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #35

Just a guess but I think you're in for a word salad of parsing delrem Apr 2014 #38

LOL. Pro is coming along, slowly:-) grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #44

LOL! The information you posted has nothing to do with my point. ProSense Apr 2014 #48

Oh, you don't realize that Obama continued the policy! Here: grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #55

LOL! I understand ProSense Apr 2014 #56

Oops, here's the link. Are you for torture or against it? grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #61

Dont you know the rules? You cant ask them if they are for or against any issue. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #85

That's what makes me sure it's a think tank:-) grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #88

The link has been provided ... I'm hoping you have an actual retort beyond that ... brett_jv Apr 2014 #74

Well, ProSense Apr 2014 #79

It's time for you to say, "I'm against torture", then we can work as a team to eradicate it:-) grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #86

OMFG the irony! laundry_queen Apr 2014 #72

Obama is complicit in that his Justice Department has not punished anyone for torturing JDPriestly Apr 2014 #24

And they won't punish anyone for it. progressoid Apr 2014 #29

That is the ugly truth RobertEarl Apr 2014 #63

It may be too late. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #65

Confirms what I already knew. That this was not about terrorism. GoneFishin Apr 2014 #3

The purpose is to impose a state of terror. delrem Apr 2014 #25

Which is the very definition of "terrorism." n/t Raksha Apr 2014 #57

re: the motivation being personal... ljm2002 Apr 2014 #75

that is correct nt G_j Apr 2014 #4

Report: CIA deceived on torture ProSense Apr 2014 #5

Anybody who isn’t sickened by this needs to take very long, very deep look into their souls.” Bandit Apr 2014 #9

Let's just give them a pass. nt Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #7

"Torture should always be prosecuted. Not prosecuting makes one complicit in the torture, right?" woo me with science Apr 2014 #8

Yes it does. Therefore Obama is complicit in torture. Raksha Apr 2014 #60

Looking forward is an ethical travesty, a sham, and a mockery. It's a Travisshamockery! TheKentuckian Apr 2014 #12

DUzy! MsLeopard Apr 2014 #16

Nah, let's just preach to other countries about morals while we have torture camps Corruption Inc Apr 2014 #13

cheney knew. spanone Apr 2014 #14

Cheney probably had a closed-circuit TV feed Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #19

Veep Peep Show Octafish Apr 2014 #39

Thanks Octafish.., so Cheney's fire didn't burn all the evidence after all. n/t 2banon Apr 2014 #66

Who needs fire when you control the mass media? Octafish Apr 2014 #80

You're so right about the media, wonder why Cheney even bother setting the fire 2banon Apr 2014 #83

Yep underpants Apr 2014 #43

"CHEENEE knew." Shrub, Rums, all knew. CIA didn't "deceive" anybody, was carrying out policy UTUSN Apr 2014 #51

It's sickening to me to know that my country now tortures like it's the norm. Lint Head Apr 2014 #15

Torture is a stain on the American fabric that can only be cleansed by prosecuting the torturers. Scuba Apr 2014 #17

K&R Solly Mack Apr 2014 #18

Kicked and recommended In_The_Wind Apr 2014 #26

k&r Soylent Brice Apr 2014 #27

Is there a statute of limitations on torture? blackspade Apr 2014 #28

The war crimes act has no statute of limitations. Vattel Apr 2014 #30

Very good. blackspade Apr 2014 #36

Thanks for that link! Very informational:) grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #68

The longer that fuck is allowed to roam free is the less repercussions he faces. 2banon Apr 2014 #67

Henry Kissinger says, "hello." 1000words Apr 2014 #69

Rofl! Case in Point! n/t 2banon Apr 2014 #71

True. blackspade Apr 2014 #78

In our dreams.. 2banon Apr 2014 #84

We have a duty to prosecute torture hootinholler Apr 2014 #40

Making a good start on health care for all is really an achievement, and the President amandabeech Apr 2014 #45

Insurance 1000words Apr 2014 #52

Never forget that Condesleeza gave the go ahead for this human rights violation. Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #53

THIS - Torture should always be prosecuted. malaise Apr 2014 #54

K & R Raksha Apr 2014 #58

MUST. LOOK. FORWARD. blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #64

Look forward... to prosecutions for war crimes! grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #70

The CIA should be renamed polynomial Apr 2014 #73

Cheney and the rest could have gotten better intelligence without torture. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #76

Not only that, real intel just might lead back to them. grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #89

Yes. They were looking for specific "intelligence". Enthusiast Apr 2014 #90

But, But - We Should Never Look Back cantbeserious Apr 2014 #77

Your title is wrong TNNurse Apr 2014 #81

K&R for pissing off all the right douchebags bobduca Apr 2014 #82

Excellent post! Thanks. LuvNewcastle Apr 2014 #87