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In reply to the discussion: Tackling Asian Privilege [View all]LeftishBrit
(41,221 posts)175. British Asians too
http://personal.lse.ac.uk/machin/pdf/hanes%20machin%20september%202013%20web.pdf
Very sad and disgusting.
Very sad and disgusting.
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the website is publishedby a guy who teamed up with Pat Buchanan and founded the American Conservati
LanternWaste
May 2014
#8
I have to admit, I too, have checked to see who would rec something like this n/t
etherealtruth
May 2014
#90
In this country the passenger's right to a public accommodation wins every time
etherealtruth
May 2014
#86
misogynist too? and the OP is a fan of his writings. Im shocked, I tell you!
bettyellen
May 2014
#167
White privilege does exist. How is it relevant when discussing other privileges?
The Straight Story
May 2014
#22
The OP read like satire to me. Had no idea I was supposed to take it seriously.
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#478
Nah. It's just one guy flame baiting. Like he always does when he is feeling sorry for himself.
Squinch
May 2014
#42
How DARE you start a thread on DU asserting that a particular racial group is "privileged".
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#18
what ? nobody wants to respond to this, why don't white peopel have to worry about being attacked
JI7
May 2014
#29
That is probably payback for General Shinseki telling congress several thousand troops were needed
FarCenter
May 2014
#85
you seem to see yourself as a victim in everything , but i can see why, you are resentful of others
JI7
May 2014
#30
there have been many threads about asians success but they rarely get many comments, yet you post
JI7
May 2014
#38
i think the OP identifies with the author , why else would he post something like this
JI7
May 2014
#33
this reminds me of republicans bringing up Al Sharpton and cases of black on white violence
JI7
May 2014
#34
Weird if you replaced Asian with white on all of those people would celebrate you here.
dilby
May 2014
#44
bs, nobody is claiming white privilege means every white person has it great in life
JI7
May 2014
#48
"arrogant Orientals"- and the hosts left this racist pile of shit standing. Feigning impotence again
bettyellen
May 2014
#165
To be fair, Jewish folks are shut out of important positions of power in the US.
AngryAmish
May 2014
#106
Quite odd ... I had to educate myself (with the help of other's/ thank you) about the site
etherealtruth
May 2014
#74
Why the hell would a jury allow garbage from this site to be reposted here?
etherealtruth
May 2014
#108
I don't like hating on race, sex, and station, and I am learning that white trash like me
Dragonfli
May 2014
#59
*Of course* none of us "get unicorns and parades every time you wake up in the morning."
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#423
OMG! I always thought of the Yellow Peril as movie trophe. That's disgusting!
freshwest
Jun 2014
#532
I have no doubt that the same folk reccing this post love those posts, too
etherealtruth
May 2014
#116
most interactions people have will be with people who are not wealthy, and poor whites can be racist
JI7
May 2014
#136
Right wing messages from VERY right wing sites should be carefully considered and discussed, huh?
etherealtruth
May 2014
#112
If you can't make your point without resorting to posting from a known RW racist
maddezmom
May 2014
#97
Even though this post survived a jury, remember your alerts still go to the Admins.
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#125
I never thought i would see the day where linking to a right wing hate site was acceptable
etherealtruth
May 2014
#131
Agree fully. These "privilege" threads are not at all helpful in working to end racism.
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#153
Yes, I know my position on the usefulness of the "privilege" threads has been a little unclear.
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#170
You have some sort of problem with my continuing posting against this racist bullshit?
boston bean
May 2014
#285
I thought Asian Privilege meant they're all kung fu masters with giant robot battlesuits
Orrex
May 2014
#152
Any single white or Jewish or whatever women want to create super-privileged babies,
IronLionZion
May 2014
#164
Why on Earth would you post this garbage here? This is disgusting and has no business on this...
hrmjustin
May 2014
#180
Now that this is kicked, yet again, for all to see... I was hoping you'd delete it at some point
ScreamingMeemie
May 2014
#182
While I agree that the "privilege" threads, including this one, are unhelpful,
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#184
No it would not in this case unfortunately. We, as a group, are better than this.
ScreamingMeemie
May 2014
#185
it made it past the hosts because one held the vote hostage- asking for a lock elsewhere
bettyellen
May 2014
#187
TOS violation. Oh, but I forgot- you argued it wasn't racist at all. Thn you said it was equal to
bettyellen
May 2014
#199
You yourself was making that assesment of the Mobama thread you hated. There was no integrity in
bettyellen
May 2014
#209
No we really don't. I explained all this in a very nice OP that you can read in my journal.
ucrdem
May 2014
#214
Pretending he could not vote otherwise while offering to change the vote for a gimme?
bettyellen
May 2014
#347
even after hearing about the extreme RW hate there, he argued it was satirical- does that make any
bettyellen
May 2014
#218
host have discretion to do the right thing- you would have locked it if you had your way on another
bettyellen
May 2014
#220
No- you offered to vote lock as part of a "deal" - so obviously you knew you could lock it.
bettyellen
May 2014
#293
you pretended your hands were tied, and brought that BS to GD. "I don't object to locking this one"
bettyellen
May 2014
#325
You said a lot of embarrassing things, this OP was not racist, then it was....
bettyellen
May 2014
#330
today they made up a brand new reason why this should now be locked, LOL....
bettyellen
May 2014
#440
There are half a dozen posts from SKinner where he says whatever the hosts decide- pretending they
bettyellen
May 2014
#294
yeah, the lovely explaination we were treated to about the process hosts use? Complete BS.
bettyellen
May 2014
#193
That isn't true. A jury left this OP 5-2 and hosts have no authority to lock ad libidem.
ucrdem
May 2014
#198
TOS violations are lockable if the host want to. Skinner is clear on that. You tried to swap votes
bettyellen
May 2014
#204
curious what you know about mods? you joined DU almost 2 years after the mod system
CreekDog
May 2014
#234
You've been advocating locking threads because you don't like the freaking "tone" or the way an
Warren Stupidity
May 2014
#245
he offered to vote lock on THIS THREAD, and that is why his exlaination does not fly....
bettyellen
May 2014
#295
I made no such offer to lock this thread and you should continue this in the host's forum. nt
ucrdem
May 2014
#305
hide the truth and peddle some "message from hosts forum" NO. here is your post:
bettyellen
May 2014
#309
wow. So you stirred shit up in gd and then complain that people are responding in gd?
Warren Stupidity
May 2014
#318
You know Warren, in Skinner's advice to hosts he asks that they act in good faith:
ucrdem
May 2014
#322
I think you have been getting a bit of feedback that your recent actions have not
Warren Stupidity
May 2014
#351
you offered to change your vote to get a lock elsewhere. is that the "process" you explained to DU?
bettyellen
May 2014
#194
oh, here is the vote trader explining the rules of hosting again. how'd that work last time?
bettyellen
May 2014
#206
It is a TOS violation, but said host did offer to change his vote, if someone would lock something
bettyellen
May 2014
#203
So, the SOP must say no racist posts from racist websites before a host could lock?
boston bean
May 2014
#255
that so many host were absent is a real shame, but that vote was held hostage for a Mobama lock...
bettyellen
May 2014
#196
I am sorry, but one host was not acting on good faith with the horse trading BS....
bettyellen
May 2014
#205
Sorry, the results of decison like this obviously matter very much to many of us here at DU
bettyellen
May 2014
#216
So you think an OP citing a racist, right-wing site is appropriate for GD then?
Spider Jerusalem
May 2014
#228
yes it violates the SOP, linking to racist drivel from hate sites by hate authors is not in the SOP
CreekDog
May 2014
#231
I always understood that GD hosts could only lock threads for SOP violations,
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#241
I caught that. Some think RW racist libertarian nuttery is perfectly fine for GD....
bettyellen
May 2014
#326
however if the word "gun" appeared you would have voted to lock it, post haste
CreekDog
May 2014
#232
Does it really need to be spelled out that racist threads are not allowed in GD? I don't get this
seaglass
May 2014
#249
Yes, if we could be assured that jurors were not racists or incredibly stupid. Since we can't,
seaglass
May 2014
#253
Are you referring to post 153 where I agreed with you that this thread should be deleted?
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#258
People only need to read your postings in this thread here to come to a conclusion of what it is you
boston bean
May 2014
#263
I don't even recall using the phrase "white privilege" anywhere in this thread (nt)
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#265
Am I wrong in my understanding that the GD hosts are there to enforce the GD SOP,
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#261
Yeah right. That's why jurors feel free to personally attack alerters and the subjects of alerts,
seaglass
May 2014
#260
Obviously the hosts (or anyone else) can bring a post to the admins' attention,
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#264
I guess we are back full circle then. Does it need to be spelled out in the SOP that racist posts
seaglass
May 2014
#268
Maybe they thought hosts would use their common sense? Did you see anything about homophobic
seaglass
May 2014
#274
If so, there would be language in the SOP about hosts "using their common sense".
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#275
And you are in the small minority that reccd this piece of shit. Good for you.
bettyellen
May 2014
#328
The persons acting unprofessionally in that discussion were the non-GD hosts. nt
ucrdem
May 2014
#211
I am not sure of that - it appears that rightly or wrongly, hosts don't feel entitled to lock
LeftishBrit
May 2014
#238
Part of being a host is refraining from locking posts that do not violate the SOP of the forum,
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#273
No, it specifically says to think of MORE than SOP: "consider the Statement of Purpose, but also....
bettyellen
May 2014
#466
If only we haven't seen many hosts disagree, and Skinner say otherwise, I might believe you...
bettyellen
May 2014
#477
the host we are discussing happily offered to vote lock- if they could trade lock votes on another
bettyellen
May 2014
#298
here is your post saying you'd not object locking this thread. Please stop with this "hands tied" BS
bettyellen
May 2014
#307
transparency sucks for some people, huh? you refused to lock, but offered a trade.
bettyellen
May 2014
#315
Actually it's useful in discrediting your efforts to spread false tales about GD hosts so thanks.
ucrdem
May 2014
#317
Understood. The problem is other hosts pretending their hands are tied when clearly they are not.
bettyellen
May 2014
#323
No, Gavin McInnes. The guy used to be fairly amusing back when he ran Vice, but more recently
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#227
Yet in the last paragraph in the OP he names 2 Asians and uses the outdated term
maddezmom
May 2014
#246
oriental is considered offensive in the US when it's used to describe a person , but not if it's
JI7
May 2014
#354
If this OP is racist, I would expect that someone would lay down a logical argument debunking it.
badtoworse
May 2014
#291
Smearing all members of a particular race based upon their purported "privilege"
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#292
I thought I did. There was no response from the poster on the items I have mentioned.
Xyzse
May 2014
#314
You didn't deal with the racist issue and on balance, I think you supported the OP's argument.
badtoworse
May 2014
#337
muriel could you say a little more about the documentation you mention in your first para?
ucrdem
May 2014
#376
The Taki magazine article that got Derbyshire fired from National Review
muriel_volestrangler
May 2014
#379
I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to compile all of that.
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#420
The article is satire to highlight the double standard being applied in respect of "white privilege"
badtoworse
May 2014
#442
Would you have felt better if the OP had plagiarized the article instead of citing it?
badtoworse
May 2014
#500
I am curious as to where the admins are on this. I know it got many alerts and emails from hosts
bettyellen
May 2014
#339
I think you did a great job and showed a great deal of integrity and respect for Du and Duers.
bettyellen
May 2014
#350
yeah, if he likes it so much, he shouldn't worry about who's kicking something he rec's.
boston bean
May 2014
#364
Why should we pretend we are better than this anymore? I hope a few people are proud of themselves.
bettyellen
May 2014
#367
Well, you know what they say about people who can't stand the heat.
greatauntoftriplets
May 2014
#370
oh dear. i am sorry you have no ability to discern racism when you see it. most of us here do.
bettyellen
May 2014
#372
The context of the article is a libertarian magazine that regularly runs racist pieces
muriel_volestrangler
May 2014
#392
And for the number of responses and hopefully recommends, everyone knows that's a main goal. n/t
seaglass
May 2014
#390
Wow, 400 responses. Then again, it is noteworthy that open racism has finally arrived at DU.
DanTex
May 2014
#402
I was alerted for revealing what excuses a host was making to defend this thread
bettyellen
May 2014
#425
It is theater, a CYA because they didn't think this OP was racist at all initially.....
bettyellen
May 2014
#432
this thread has been interesting alright, but not for the reason you think.
bettyellen
May 2014
#444
seriously, either we have a TOS or do not. Right now, I would say we have lost our way.
bettyellen
May 2014
#450
What we have is a pretty in-your-face example of what community standards really are
redqueen
May 2014
#451
I think it sort of mirrors what is happening in this country though- people actually embrace liberal
bettyellen
May 2014
#459
He's too busy over at the Discussionist bashing DU/DUers to come back and self-delete. n/t
seaglass
May 2014
#452
Not guessing at all, he's very obvious. You don't think you can tell who someone is by his/her
seaglass
May 2014
#455
hustling for a lock on the Flotus attack thread, whining about Greenwald being as racist as this OP
bettyellen
May 2014
#480
That is exactly what happened here. Many past and future hosts disagreed with this decision- it
bettyellen
May 2014
#475
What you don't seem to be able to accept is that people who are LIBERAL and NOT RACIST...
kristopher
May 2014
#489
Why don't you try to get skinner to bring back the banned list and see what he says?
kristopher
May 2014
#490
You were hustling for locks of a thread insulting FLOTUS, so your excuse is not cutting it. As other
bettyellen
May 2014
#476
let's ignore that dozens here confronted the OP for posting racist twaddle, okay...
bettyellen
May 2014
#499
I totally agree that "privilege" threads that single out particular races in a negative manner
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#504
Do you honestly believe the point of the OP was to spread hostility towards Asians?
badtoworse
May 2014
#505
Certainly, the mystique and majesty of the Hosts has taken a hit with this thread.
Nye Bevan
May 2014
#503
It would seem Skinner chose to let the OP wear this thread around his neck.
Ikonoklast
May 2014
#506
The anger, the meta host controversy...the confusion...This *may* be the thread that broke DU!
Romulox
May 2014
#501
Glenn Greenwald and "TakiMag person Gavin McInnes" appear on May 13 Fox Business show
ucrdem
May 2014
#511
I'm trying to figure out how this thread is still allowed to remain open. It is the most racist shit
Liberal_Stalwart71
May 2014
#531