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jwirr

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18. I have been involved with welfare assistance programs since 1966 when I was a divorced single
Sat May 24, 2014, 10:12 AM
May 2014

mother with three children one being very sick. It did not change much at all and I did a lot of lobbying. One of the organizations I used in lobbying was Bread for the World.

One of the programs I was trying to change was the food stamp program when it still had "fake" money for you to spend which made it too easy to sell if you wanted cash. I also talked about some other problems. I wrote to them asking for help in getting this changed. And then I learned something. They wrote a personal letter back saying that they understood what was happening in the things I described in my letter. Then they told me why they did not even try to touch the issues. Even back then (mid 70s) IF they had opened the can of worms to fix the problems the enemies of the program (rethugs) would have destroyed it completely. And not too many years later along comes newtie and just about did destroy one of the safety net programs.

What I learned is that sometimes when you are trying to fix the program you have too many enemies and will lose the whole thing. It is exactly what they are trying to do with ACA in their 50 repeal votes. We would be crazy to open the door for them to do more damage by putting up a bill that allows them to do that through amendments etc..

Yes, Democrats often fail to protect or correct vital programs but better that than to put them on the floor to be destroyed by the people we know are out to repeal all of them and at the moment those enemies are the majority in the House. In fact while we had a majority at the beginning of President Obama's first term it was very small and we have seen exactly how deadly the enemy can be with their parliamentary tricks.

We cannot risk losing more of the safety net without the votes to protect it by deliberately placing it into a vulnerable position ourselves.

I am praying that we get a majority in both houses these last two years of President Obama's last term and then if the Democrats to not act then we need to throw the bums out. We need to get the vote out and take control for at least the next 2 years. IMO we need to get the majority in both the House and Senate while we have a Democrat in the WH because we need to stop several things from happening: end the obstruction of voters, keep the US Supreme Court for getting any more conservative and protect what is left of the safety net.

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And OUR CHILDREN are suffering!!! chervilant May 2014 #1
We haven't seen anything yet yeoman6987 May 2014 #30
No, it's ALWAYS the republican's fault n2doc May 2014 #2
! xchrom May 2014 #3
When I Hear That liberalmike27 May 2014 #19
But it makes me wonder PatrickforO May 2014 #21
I suspect most of them (us) do Armstead May 2014 #35
You clearly haven't met the yahoo who represents my House district... DeadLetterOffice May 2014 #47
i dont have to. i have the greatest rep. mopinko May 2014 #48
Why is that when the GOP is in control they get what they want? And when they're out of power too. Armstead May 2014 #34
Two party system. See Gore Vidal on the topic. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #42
Control is not enough. Until we have 100% of both House and Senate, plus the WH... Demo_Chris May 2014 #4
what we really need... tomp May 2014 #7
That won't work either. If we have 100% we must be magnanimous and form a GoneFishin May 2014 #14
Yep. bvar22 May 2014 #22
And all D appointed SCOTUS judges ctsnowman May 2014 #15
You should study how LBJ got his legislation through Congress. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #43
That little whine and twenty bucks will get you a cup of coffee at the Ritz psiman May 2014 #49
Agree with you 100% ... for years, I've been saying that education and jobs were the key. n/t secondwind May 2014 #5
Cut the Crap™ MannyGoldstein May 2014 #6
If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ... Scuba May 2014 #8
The 1% ctsnowman May 2014 #16
... xchrom May 2014 #29
Pretty much the same, apparently. Scuba May 2014 #45
Don't Worry be Happy ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #9
Its been downhill for the Working CLass & Poor... bvar22 May 2014 #23
You are 100% correct. I would MUCH rather have a J-O-B than SNAP benefits! ColesCountyDem May 2014 #10
This happened to a family member - TBF May 2014 #13
But ... Obama went for a walk - TBF May 2014 #11
Who was that guy Thespian2 May 2014 #12
Look South. bvar22 May 2014 #24
To the greedy rich, a third world nation is actually a good thing. You can stretch your ill GoneFishin May 2014 #27
Over on the other board someone posted a graphic that states that O's net worth CrispyQ May 2014 #31
K & R...for exposure... Wounded Bear May 2014 #17
I have been involved with welfare assistance programs since 1966 when I was a divorced single jwirr May 2014 #18
Hear, hear! smallcat88 May 2014 #32
We are never going to get those majorities unless the Democrats truly turn populist and newthinking May 2014 #37
I agree that the Democrats need to stop moving to the center. Back when I was talking about they jwirr May 2014 #40
Excellent post Arthur_Frain May 2014 #39
K & R historylovr May 2014 #20
A few months ago ProSense May 2014 #25
And Clinton signed "welfare reform" as a sop to the right... villager May 2014 #26
6 million seems low. I bet it's a lot higher than that. nt Rhymes With Orange May 2014 #28
Could you tell me which political parties are working to change this? Tikki May 2014 #33
Oh Crap. More of this shit. Armstead May 2014 #36
Yes, same old poop, different day... bayareaboy May 2014 #41
K&R Louisiana1976 May 2014 #38
K&R for excellent political strategy. Anytime a policy hurts kids, it is bad policy McCamy Taylor May 2014 #44
Trickle Down, bay-bee! Even Obama "believes" it!!! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #46
Unpaid Work = $450 BILLION a year to replace mntleo2 May 2014 #50
I smell Karl Rove! nt Cryptoad May 2014 #51
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