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JohnnyRingo

(20,069 posts)
Sat May 24, 2014, 11:51 AM May 2014

To those so vigorously defending Assange naming "Victim Country X"... [View all]

I'm not one of those who despise Greenwald, and I laud his weighty decision to cover the identity of Afghanistan as "Country X", but I'm not happy that Julian Assange went over his head to disclose this most recent fact.

I want to point out that this isn't the first time a CIA operation has been exposed with potentially violent results. I believe the most famous case was in 2003 when then Vice President Dick Cheney outed CIA operative Valerie Plame and cited her covert mission in Iraq and Niger. As in this case, all her sources in Iraq were immediately compromised as well as associates who worked at her front company in Greece.

Ms. Plame was safe, but her career ended on this revelation. Her associates had nowhere to hide however. The results were certain death to many foreign nationals who were known to work for her. This Afghanistan revelation, that benefits the US public in no way, is not at all unlike that selfish move by Cheney. It was done for egotistical personal reasons.

If people here are ready to defend Julian Assange and Dick Cheney as two of history's great whistle blowers for uncovering CIA operations, I'll find another place to hang out.

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"people here are ready to defend Julian Assange and Dick Cheney" bobduca May 2014 #1
In what way do the actions of Cheney and Assange differ? JohnnyRingo May 2014 #2
Disagreeing with the decision to out Afganistan is fine bobduca May 2014 #3
Thank you, bob RobertEarl May 2014 #6
Perhaps I was inarticulate. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #10
Thanks for the clarification bobduca May 2014 #14
Actually they don't always know how we surveil them... JohnnyRingo May 2014 #16
skepticism is not isolationism bobduca May 2014 #18
I misunderstood you JohnnyRingo May 2014 #19
Greenwald is well-off a US citizen, and free to come and go. So is Cheney. bemildred May 2014 #4
Motivation? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #7
Almost everyone knows we spy on Afghanistan ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #5
...and Cheney's people called Plame's CIA involvement an "open secret. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #11
Assange is basically screwing up Snowden's situation ProSense May 2014 #8
You seem to presume that everything the CIA does is hunky-dory. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #9
Valerie Plame was investigating the yellowcake sale from Niger to Iraq. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #12
Meanwhile the CIA's secret armies are running the CIA's secret wars. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #17
Considering the CIA's lengthy record of humanitarian policies and acts.... Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #13
Assange is well-known for not giving a shit about people in Afghanistan...... msanthrope May 2014 #15
I think the difference to them hinges on treestar May 2014 #20
Didn't the Repubs (Issa or whoever) spill the beans CJCRANE May 2014 #21
Assange can say... iandhr May 2014 #22
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