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20. I think the difference to them hinges on

Reply to JohnnyRingo (Original post)

Sat May 24, 2014, 06:04 PM

May 2014

who did it. Julian is outside the government. Cheney was in the government. To this mentality, Cheney spilling secrets is bad, because Cheney is bad, because he was in power. Julian is good, because he is not in power, and his spilling secrets sort of spites the bad people, the ones in power, so that's a good spilling of secrets.

This is why Obama is as bad as Cheney. He's the one who is in power in the government. So his keeping secrets from us is bad. His spilling secrets, if he did it, would be bad.

But be Julian or Comrade Eddie or anyone outside the government, their spilling secrets is good and their hiding information is good too.

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To those so vigorously defending Assange naming "Victim Country X"... [View all] JohnnyRingo May 2014 OP

"people here are ready to defend Julian Assange and Dick Cheney" bobduca May 2014 #1

In what way do the actions of Cheney and Assange differ? JohnnyRingo May 2014 #2

Disagreeing with the decision to out Afganistan is fine bobduca May 2014 #3

Thank you, bob RobertEarl May 2014 #6

Perhaps I was inarticulate. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #10

Thanks for the clarification bobduca May 2014 #14

Actually they don't always know how we surveil them... JohnnyRingo May 2014 #16

skepticism is not isolationism bobduca May 2014 #18

I misunderstood you JohnnyRingo May 2014 #19

Greenwald is well-off a US citizen, and free to come and go. So is Cheney. bemildred May 2014 #4

Motivation? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2014 #7

Almost everyone knows we spy on Afghanistan ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #5

...and Cheney's people called Plame's CIA involvement an "open secret. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #11

Assange is basically screwing up Snowden's situation ProSense May 2014 #8

You seem to presume that everything the CIA does is hunky-dory. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #9

Valerie Plame was investigating the yellowcake sale from Niger to Iraq. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #12

Meanwhile the CIA's secret armies are running the CIA's secret wars. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #17

Considering the CIA's lengthy record of humanitarian policies and acts.... Tierra_y_Libertad May 2014 #13

Assange is well-known for not giving a shit about people in Afghanistan...... msanthrope May 2014 #15

I think the difference to them hinges on treestar May 2014 #20

Didn't the Repubs (Issa or whoever) spill the beans CJCRANE May 2014 #21

Assange can say... iandhr May 2014 #22