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In reply to the discussion: Robert Parry: The State Department's Ukraine Fiasco [View all]eridani
(51,907 posts)16. NYT's One-Sided Ukraine Narrative
http://www.nationofchange.org/us-empire-decline-1401205010
Though most protesters appeared motivated by a desire for better governance and a hope that an association with Europe would improve their economic prospects, a significant percentage of the crowd on the Maidan came from neo-Nazi and other far-right movements that despised Yanukovych and his ethnic Russian political base for their own reasons, dating back to Ukraines split in World War II between pro-Nazi and pro-Soviet forces.
The increasingly disruptive protests on the Maidan were also egged on by U.S. officials and pushed by U.S.-funded non-governmental organizations, some subsidized by the National Endowment for Democracy, whose neocon president Carl Gershman last September had termed Ukraine the biggest prize and a key step in undermining Putin inside Russia.
Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, a neocon who had been an adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, personally urged on the demonstrators, even passing out cookies at the Maidan. In one speech, she told Ukrainian business leaders that the United States had invested $5 billion in their European aspirations.
Nuland also was caught in an intercepted phone conversation with U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt explaining whom she wanted to see running the government once Yanukovych was gone. Her choice was Arseniy Yatsenyuk or Yats.
Sen. John McCain, another prominent neocon, rallied the Maidan protesters while standing near a Svoboda party banner honoring Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera, whose radical paramilitary force had helped the Nazis expel and exterminate tens of thousands of Poles and Jews during World War II.
Though most protesters appeared motivated by a desire for better governance and a hope that an association with Europe would improve their economic prospects, a significant percentage of the crowd on the Maidan came from neo-Nazi and other far-right movements that despised Yanukovych and his ethnic Russian political base for their own reasons, dating back to Ukraines split in World War II between pro-Nazi and pro-Soviet forces.
The increasingly disruptive protests on the Maidan were also egged on by U.S. officials and pushed by U.S.-funded non-governmental organizations, some subsidized by the National Endowment for Democracy, whose neocon president Carl Gershman last September had termed Ukraine the biggest prize and a key step in undermining Putin inside Russia.
Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs Victoria Nuland, a neocon who had been an adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney, personally urged on the demonstrators, even passing out cookies at the Maidan. In one speech, she told Ukrainian business leaders that the United States had invested $5 billion in their European aspirations.
Nuland also was caught in an intercepted phone conversation with U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt explaining whom she wanted to see running the government once Yanukovych was gone. Her choice was Arseniy Yatsenyuk or Yats.
Sen. John McCain, another prominent neocon, rallied the Maidan protesters while standing near a Svoboda party banner honoring Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera, whose radical paramilitary force had helped the Nazis expel and exterminate tens of thousands of Poles and Jews during World War II.
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I'm in total disbelief that Parry was once considered a respectable investigative journalist.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#5
Yanukovych was not kidnapped, killed, arrested, or forcibly removed. He left on his own accord.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#21
The "Svoboda stormtroopers", whoever they were, did not force Yankovych to leave.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#84
Yanukovich still had complete control of his military and security forces, including the Berkut and
pampango
May 2014
#86
My position that he's a "hack" is my own statement of opinion based on facts I've gathered.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#19
Parry "found" jack shit. I doubt he's been in Ukraine over the past year, if at all.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#23
So if it's bullshit, do you have the evidence to bolster Parry's claims that I challenged?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#42
Crimea was shuffled around by the Soviets from the Russian SSR to the Ukrainian SSR.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#75
Other than the countless times that I've mentioned I'm an unemployed student.
NuclearDem
May 2014
#80
I agree. Blaming the US for the Russian invasion is laughable and unsupportable.
stevenleser
May 2014
#18
Parry is one of the most respected US Journalists. And Nuland, we all know HER 'ties' btw, did way
sabrina 1
May 2014
#46
Robert Parry of 2014 runs a two-bit website. His columns on Ukraine are rehashed RT stories....
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#48
There was a coup in Ukraine, Parry is hardly the only one who recognizes that. Are you
sabrina 1
May 2014
#53
Yes, I am arguing that there was not a coup. "Coup" has a specific meaning....
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#55
Definitely fits all the definitions of a coup. Complete with the tapes of the plotters several
sabrina 1
May 2014
#57
I've taken to plugging in "military-industrial complex" everywhere I see "Neocon"
starroute
May 2014
#6
Agreed. Neocon Putin sent his head of the MIC to Syria to accept thanks from Assad
pampango
May 2014
#77
The day that Robert Parry is banned from this site, will be the day it has to declare itself
sabrina 1
May 2014
#51
Something you might not know about the timeline of events in February 2014.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#58
He also stated he was not leaving his post in a televised address *before* the controversial vote
newthinking
May 2014
#61
The coup timeline goes way further back than Feb. Yanukovych had no chance of being left in power,
sabrina 1
May 2014
#66
Coups involve an actual scheme and execution. You've shown none of that.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#74
'Some figures' in the West, included those that were exposed publicly, members of the State Dept.
sabrina 1
May 2014
#81
Simply repeating the word "coup" over and over again does not mean there was actually a coup.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2014
#73
Getting involved in other peoples civil wars have been ever so successful before.
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2014
#63