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fujiyama

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21. This is where her husband is a much more effective communicator

Reply to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sun Jun 22, 2014, 12:13 PM

Jun 2014

He knows how to connect - and at times he's more self deprecating about their wealth. She strikes me as tone deaf at times.

It almost seems like she's doubling down on her "dead broke" comment. Why can't she simply admit that her and family have done extremely well financially and the difference between them and republicans is that they expect to pay their share back in taxes? Or that she felt that after legal bills after Bill's presidency, they wanted to maintain a certain lifestyle and standard of living and they were fortunate enough to have lucrative opportunities they could take advantage of?

Then again, is it the case that all of that money wasn't always made through hard work? It seems that way with Chelsea - working for hedge funds and being paid over half a million dollars by NBC for being the daughter of an ex-president isn't exactly through toiling away. And it looks like they are taking advantage of the shady tax shelters the Romneys and other top 1 percenters use.

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Hillary Clinton Says She Isn't 'Truly Well Off' Saturday Guardian news [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 OP

"They don't see me as part of the problem." woo me with science Jun 2014 #1

Sounds like something Barbara Bush would say Laughing Mirror Jun 2014 #59

"ruling class patter" - Perfect description! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #70

With that little ha-ha giggle in-between phrases, Laughing Mirror Jun 2014 #76

what a halfwitted thing for her to say. she has no worries of any kind about her safety and comfort roguevalley Jun 2014 #153

Just rubbing salt in the wounds of all those struggling Yo_Mama Jun 2014 #171

I'm sorry, I'll just say it: Hillary is an embarrassment - to herself and to her party. Time to leave the stage. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #154

Her remarks are offensive to Liberals and working class Democrats, Maedhros Jun 2014 #180

Yes, you're right; Hillary is SO transparent. Certainly we can do better in finding a liberal candidate of, by, and for the people. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #183

I have friends with her mindset. Maedhros Jun 2014 #185

I'm sure Carlyle will assist her. L0oniX Jun 2014 #138

What a nincompoop. nt Bonobo Jun 2014 #2

+1 for using "nincompoop"- a wonderful word cali Jun 2014 #45

I love that word! Sissyk Jun 2014 #51

Quit feeding talking point banquets to the Republicans, Ms. Clinton. Please. (nt) Paladin Jun 2014 #3

This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #131

Hillary should probably stop giving interviews, methinks. djean111 Jun 2014 #4

"...transcendentally and monumentally and extravagantly clueless." Well put! scarletwoman Jun 2014 #23

Yes, and if she gets the nomination, she should not campaign or debate. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #155

Fine with me. Just blather anyway, not one word to be believed or counted on. djean111 Jun 2014 #161

LOL, one big corporate circle jerk; everyone wins!! That's the ticket! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #182

Or she and her handlers actually have a strategy deutsey Jun 2014 #164

No, it is not working. djean111 Jun 2014 #165

Hey, Hillary, what about the million dollars speeches your husband gives? mylye2222 Jun 2014 #5

You must be confusing Bill with Reagan. Beacool Jun 2014 #146

"by dint of hard work." tularetom Jun 2014 #6

She blunders once again. Whisp Jun 2014 #10

yeah by dint of hard work dsc Jun 2014 #66

They did work hard tea and oranges Jun 2014 #93

Are we OK with Carter having written books? dsc Jun 2014 #97

I don't recall Carter ever sounding quite like Secretary Clinton tea and oranges Jun 2014 #102

Carter wasn't a compulsive liar with his head in the money clouds. Whisp Jun 2014 #104

No Carter merely dsc Jun 2014 #117

It is amazing when I looked that up how many conservative or libertarian writers davidpdx Jun 2014 #145

Do you have any proof of that? Whisp Jun 2014 #149

it is from Wikipedia dsc Jun 2014 #174

Carter is a decent human being doing a lot of good in the world. lululu Jun 2014 #133

I hope she doesn't win the nomination, because I really can't stomach her any more. reformist2 Jun 2014 #7

Me too.... mylye2222 Jun 2014 #19

Kinda sad to see the wheels come off her campaign already; I'm not a supporter - Go Elizabeth! - but I truly did not expect her to self-destruct this early. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #156

Same here. City Lights Jun 2014 #166

I hope she doesn't seek it Yo_Mama Jun 2014 #173

Out of Touch in her bubble? KoKo Jun 2014 #8

Bubble? More like a Death Star! L0oniX Jun 2014 #139

Hahahaha rusty fender Jun 2014 #168

She has zero charisma and zero awareness of what she's saying LittleBlue Jun 2014 #9

And who really writes those speeches and books. She gets paid for showing up. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #12

It is very hard work! Very tiring on the hands and don't forget the hazard of carpal tunnel! Dragonfli Jun 2014 #37

I don't think a competent politician can get through their primaries. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #107

I'm beginning to think Hillary is Banksy. nt MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #11

+1 n2doc Jun 2014 #36

Yep. Just one of those ordinary families...like the Romneys. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #13

"Because we pay ordinary income tax'' not really hillary Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #14

Is property tax the same as income tax? LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #47

read the article Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #57

Doesn't it have more to do with Chelsea's inheritance LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #81

Who the hell is advising her? So many alsame Jun 2014 #15

Maybe we're misunderstanding her comment. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #16

Oh, god, this again? joshcryer Jun 2014 #17

What's a 'dint?' leftstreet Jun 2014 #18

Another word for enlightenment Jun 2014 #34

when I used that word in wordmojo hfojvt Jun 2014 #100

Trying to play the "poor little victim" to gain sympaty.... mylye2222 Jun 2014 #20

This is where her husband is a much more effective communicator fujiyama Jun 2014 #21

She probably does feel poor and working class compared to the company she cultivates TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #143

Good point fujiyama Jun 2014 #189

WOW Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #22

Perhaps the most overrated political talent in modern history. TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #24

Good summary. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #30

Your last paragraph is a perfect description tularetom Jun 2014 #46

You said it Laughing Mirror Jun 2014 #55

Hardly makes a dint compared to ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #58

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #101

Ouch! L0oniX Jun 2014 #140

I do remember another guy, who ran for president, and who had times REALLY.. mylye2222 Jun 2014 #25

Nice to see her practicing to endear herself to working class voters. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #26

She's just an ordinary lady you can sit down and have a cup of Champagne with. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #29

What? Did she hire Mitt Romney's speech writer? Scuba Jun 2014 #27

Proof that her "dead broke" gaffe wasn't simply a one-off. n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #28

She is good at fooling herself elfin Jun 2014 #31

Her FULL sentence, I read as admitting she is well off eShirl Jun 2014 #32

You are right...bullshit thread head BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #56

Thanks for the fuller quote. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #83

that's how I read it too. But the twisters just love to do what they do best... twist. OKNancy Jun 2014 #127

she clearly states she is not "truly well off". Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #172

"unlike a lot of people"... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #196

Her arrogance will be her downfall Egnever Jun 2014 #33

There is a frightening immaturity about the Clintons. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #35

Sadly no...We all have witnessed in " real life" mylye2222 Jun 2014 #38

Maybe she really doesn't want the nod. enlightenment Jun 2014 #41

She is so utterly clueless. Just pathetic. closeupready Jun 2014 #39

Just imagine that cluelessness and disregard for realities Whisp Jun 2014 #43

Yes - what little influence she had went right to her ego, apparently. closeupready Jun 2014 #136

sigh...jesus hillary randys1 Jun 2014 #40

Elizabeth Warren isn't rich? NobodyHere Jun 2014 #192

I said she isnt both rich and oblivious, and compared to the Clintons and most others, no she isnt randys1 Jun 2014 #200

Oh dear. Baitball Blogger Jun 2014 #42

It's like if she's trying to say everything to bring attention to her.... mylye2222 Jun 2014 #44

Is there anyone here who truly DOESN'T think that Mark Penn remains bullwinkle428 Jun 2014 #48

She ought to be on one of those atrocious Real Housewife bitch session shows. valerief Jun 2014 #49

repubs are going to put these comments in ads if she runs for prez Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #50

The headline is bullshit. LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #52

maybe you should be Hillary's speakwriter/spokesperson? Whisp Jun 2014 #54

She is neither a nincompoop nor clueless. LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #65

woosh ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #61

High and outside... LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #68

True that Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2014 #132

Every president "inherits" vast wealth when they leave office. joshcryer Jun 2014 #69

You don't think Bill Clinton still busts his ass? LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #75

Showing up to speaking engagements isn't hard work. joshcryer Jun 2014 #85

He earned high office from scratch. LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #90

Same argument used to justify CEO compensation packages joeglow3 Jun 2014 #181

Wrong. The analogue would be LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #186

My dad grew up with a friend who became CEO of a Fortune 500 company joeglow3 Jun 2014 #187

If you are saying that the CEO of a fortune 500 worked more in his 30 year carreer LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #188

I don't give a shit if someone thinks otherwise joeglow3 Jun 2014 #191

You are coopting a legitimate class grievance LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #201

I see you have resorted to attacking me joeglow3 Jun 2014 #202

The only thing they inherited was debt. Beacool Jun 2014 #148

What do you mean so what? joshcryer Jun 2014 #150

Again, so what? Beacool Jun 2014 #151

No, she should not have said she was broke or not "truly wealthy." joshcryer Jun 2014 #152

From an economic standpoint, that is bullshit joeglow3 Jun 2014 #194

Lol. you add a bunch of words she didn't say Union Scribe Jun 2014 #82

The headline says " Hillary Clinton Says She Isn't 'Truly Well Off' Saturday Guardian news LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #87

"Because we (semi-impoverished, debt-ridden people) pay ordinary income tax Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #88

Again context is important. LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #91

REACTIONARIES??! Jackpine Radical Jun 2014 #95

Kind of like when Obama said how people "get bitter,...cling to guns or religion." LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #130

except she did NOT say "other" hfojvt Jun 2014 #99

The headline grossly misrepresents what she said. LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #135

glad you could fill in the blanks for everyone here frylock Jun 2014 #105

I agree, the Clintons bust their asses MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author madaboutharry Jun 2014 #53

she should know.... mike_c Jun 2014 #60

''I came. We talked. They paid.'' Octafish Jun 2014 #62

A 2%-er trying to tell us proles she's one of us. Yea, right. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #63

We need a serious, soul searching, nilesobek Jun 2014 #64

Nobody has been nominated yet. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #108

Her problem is that she assumes we are smarter than we are Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #67

Quite the opposite - she assumes we are dumb enough to excuse the lies and double talk tularetom Jun 2014 #71

BS Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #73

She assumes she deserves everything she wants, and is smarter than the whole planet reunited. mylye2222 Jun 2014 #78

Damn Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #80

And people like you who adore her do not see how this comes across. Really dumb of her. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #112

No...I am smart enough to know it does not matter what she says Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #113

I am smart enough to know her supporters overlook her obvious stupid comments. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #118

She's pointing out the difference between income tax and capital gains tax thomhartmann Jun 2014 #72

Thanks Tom .... however she did say it was ordinary tax paying which Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #79

This is absolutely what she's saying. joshcryer Jun 2014 #94

THANK YOU Skittles Jun 2014 #157

She has no clue. joshcryer Jun 2014 #158

alas, I don't think many of our politicians do Skittles Jun 2014 #159

So freaking what? Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #178

I find it very hard to believe that Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #109

^ This TBF Jun 2014 #162

Who here would turn down $200,000 for a speech? For many of us it would take years to earn Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #74

Depends on who it was coming from. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #110

Yeah, not the usual, did you turn down a job to give a speech? Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #116

Ack. Defending Hillary. Something I don't relish doing. She didn't say that cali Jun 2014 #77

I gave her a pass on "dead broke" but she should have learned that was silly. aikoaiko Jun 2014 #84

She was against raising SS cap because it was "tax on middle class." joshcryer Jun 2014 #89

huh Skittles Jun 2014 #86

Let them eat fake! Whisp Jun 2014 #96

What I really enjoy about all the above posts rock Jun 2014 #92

This all going to backfire on her. Sienna86 Jun 2014 #98

She's being courted by the Waltons, among others in the top .01% Warpy Jun 2014 #103

LEAVE HILLARY ALONE! She pulled herself out of poverty not that long ago! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #111

Uh, Hillary? Aerows Jun 2014 #114

She obviously doesn't follow DU... pipoman Jun 2014 #115

this is kind of misleading JI7 Jun 2014 #119

... Whisp Jun 2014 #120

Can You Say... "Tone Deaf ???" - Sure, I New Ya Could... WillyT Jun 2014 #121

Never Fear...James Carville is "To the Rescue" and he's the best we Dems have got.... KoKo Jun 2014 #122

Ladies and gentlemen, our next nominee! n/t hughee99 Jun 2014 #123

Our ruling class. Orsino Jun 2014 #124

Mittary Romton speaks. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #125

Very surprising wheniwasincongress Jun 2014 #126

Tone Deaf as Fuck, like so many of our ruling elite. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #128

We shouldn't. Further, if she says the same thing in different ways, closeupready Jun 2014 #137

To say nothing of Maggie Thatcher DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #169

Yes, interestingly, those two names came up in my head moments ago. closeupready Jun 2014 #170

The least she could do is give us some cake. L0oniX Jun 2014 #141

She needs an English to English translator for whenever she speaks. Whisp Jun 2014 #144

... LittleBlue Jun 2014 #175

That's not how I read that? Spider Jerusalem Jun 2014 #129

EXACTLY how I read it! And I'm wondering if she was quoted incorrectly. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #163

All that matters in politics these days is the sound bite and the immediate impression given. djean111 Jun 2014 #167

Obviously it was meant as a shot at Romney, but obviously that doesn't fit the narrative on DU. Metric System Jun 2014 #134

Then she has piss poor advisors. Why? TM99 Jun 2014 #179

Does this mean we don't get cake? L0oniX Jun 2014 #142

Oh, the perpetual drama. Beacool Jun 2014 #147

I may vomit Demeter Jun 2014 #160

Gaff number ???? TheNutcracker Jun 2014 #176

PS, called raising SS cap a tax on middle class? Her OWN husband proposed raising cap to 140K. TheNutcracker Jun 2014 #177

She REALLY has to stop digging. Arkana Jun 2014 #184

Hillary says: I can't be truly wealthy until I own one of these: Whisp Jun 2014 #190

Upon further review... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #193

No. She meant what she said joeglow3 Jun 2014 #195

She was talking to a British Paper Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #198

But they meant something here. joeglow3 Jun 2014 #199

There's always more. Octafish Jun 2014 #197