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Maedhros

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18. This is a perfect example of how science works much differently than faith.

Tue Jun 24, 2014, 04:37 PM

Jun 2014

A scientist publishes a new finding (e.g. the BICEP2's gravitational-wave evidence for the Big Bang), and other scientists immediately set out to prove it wrong.

As opposed to religious faith, which posits the existence of an original, revealed Truth that can never change and which can never be proven wrong.

The problem we see with Creationists is that they expect science to work the same way as faith, and view ongoing revision of theory as a weakness of the method, not a strength. Neil Degrasse Tyson said it best: scientists aren't afraid to be wrong, because that means there is more mystery to be solved.

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