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Octafish

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63. Nothing to get hung about.
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 09:43 AM
Jun 2014


The Higgs Boson Should Have Crushed the Universe

by Ian O'Neill
Discovery.com, Jun 24, 2014 03:42 PM ET

EXCERPT...

In research presented today (Tuesday) at the Royal Astronomical Society’s National Astronomy Meeting in Portsmouth, UK, Malcolm Fairbairn and Robert Hogan of King’s College London (KCL) discussed the implications of recent discoveries in particle physics and the origins of our universe. Their conclusions will likely cause some unrest.

Since the discovery of a Higgs-like boson by Large Hadron Collider (LHC) physicists in 2012, further studies and data analysis has proven that this particular boson really is the Higgs boson — a subatomic particle that mediates the Higgs field. The Higgs field is believed to fill the entire known universe and endows all matter with mass. Since its discovery, physicists have been getting up-close and personal with the Higgs and experimental analyses has not only proven its existence, scientists are also becoming very familiar with the boson’s (and, by extension, the field it exchanges) properties.

But the problem with the Higgs field is that, if given enough energy, it has the power to reverse cosmic expansion and create a Big Crunch.

The mathematics to arise from accepted Higgs field theory suggests the universe is currently sitting comfortably in a Higgs field energy “valley.” To get out of this valley and up the adjacent “hill” (as shown in the energy diagram, right), huge quantities of energy would need to be unleashed inside the field. But, if there were enough energy to push the universe over the hill and into the deeper energy valley next door, the universe would simply, and catastrophically, collapse.

This is where the BICEP2 results come in. If their observations are real and gravitational waves in the CMB prove cosmological inflation, the Higgs field has already been kicked by too much energy, pushing the Higgs field over the energy hill and deep into the neighboring valley’s precipice! For any wannabe universe, this is very bad news — the newborn universe would appear as a Big Bang, the Higgs field would become overloaded with an energetic inflationary period, and the whole lot would vanish in a blink of an eye.

“This is an unacceptable prediction of the theory because if this had happened we wouldn’t be around to discuss it,” said Hogan.

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http://news.discovery.com/space/cosmology/the-higgs-boson-should-have-crushed-the-universe-140624.htm



Peter Max continues to grow on me. Plus, Ringo's in town Friday.

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are you sure that you exist, and are not a ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #1
Solipsist and Zombie Octafish Jun 2014 #4
awesome cool! thanks for the link! ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #23
OOooo, This looks like a fun read! icymist Jun 2014 #53
Either way, I'm having a pretty good time OriginalGeek Jun 2014 #35
this must be a matrix that our common consent dreams into existence roguevalley Jun 2014 #58
or a combo of prescription and OTC meds taken in all the wrong doses. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #62
You're a fragment of my imagination. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #65
better than the wrong pigment. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #68
Yup, thought so! elleng Jun 2014 #2
Would explain a lot. Octafish Jun 2014 #5
Except to the woman who has her hand out for a handshake! japple Jun 2014 #30
Her fault for not being bald. Octafish Jun 2014 #61
That poor man--scarred for life! eom japple Jun 2014 #72
I believe the guy Bush treats like an egg is Jeff Gannon, male prostitute and GOP utility man. Octafish Jun 2014 #77
Oh yeah! I remember that guy. Had full access to the pres didn't he? japple Jun 2014 #83
I'm cool with this PasadenaTrudy Jun 2014 #3
Jane English and Gia-fu Feng got it. Octafish Jun 2014 #7
I call bullshit. GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #6
What Voltaire and Descartes said. Octafish Jun 2014 #8
Descartes: The later years... pinboy3niner Jun 2014 #14
. Lurker Deluxe Jun 2014 #15
Is that Captain Kirk getting accosted by a space yeti? Quantess Jun 2014 #19
A Mugato of the planet Neural, I believe aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2014 #22
That's the one. Octafish Jun 2014 #24
Yeah but can a Higgs Boson think? chknltl Jun 2014 #26
Brilliant analysis. Wow, I am impressed! n-t Logical Jun 2014 #47
I've tried. It never returns my calls. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #64
LOL "The Big Crunch". For some reason that really got me laughing. snagglepuss Jun 2014 #9
Found some good explanation of It All from Comcast, of all places... Octafish Jun 2014 #17
There is no safety in the cosmos. Alan Watts Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #10
Alan Watts saved my life... Octafish Jun 2014 #20
I used to listen to him on KPFK, too. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #21
WABX Detroit safeinOhio Jun 2014 #34
The wisdom of insecurity. Vattel Jun 2014 #51
Good I can't make my rent for the first Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #11
Which is the crux of the biscuit, the Apostrophe. Octafish Jun 2014 #57
certain people will use this to claim it proves God exists JI7 Jun 2014 #12
Maybe we ARE just denizens of a virtual reality with incomplete rules aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2014 #13
Nah--it's turtles all the way down, not denizens of tblue37 Jun 2014 #32
We exist because the Universe drank a bottle of Vytautas in the first milliseconds of existence derby378 Jun 2014 #16
What....have....you....done.....to.....brain......mine? daleanime Jun 2014 #28
Thanks a lot.... abakan Jun 2014 #48
Ok, ok, who has alerted on this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #56
Thanks! And done! derby378 Jun 2014 #60
Awesome. Octafish Jun 2014 #66
Hoo boy derby378 Jun 2014 #79
Funnier still, I have actually drunk Vytautas. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #67
Cool! How long ago? derby378 Jun 2014 #78
I had it several years ago. There is a large ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #86
This is a perfect example of how science works much differently than faith. Maedhros Jun 2014 #18
That is not the definition of religious faith. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #37
Point of Clarification: Maedhros Jun 2014 #38
Behold: The Infallible Proof of EXISTENCE ECHOFIELDS Jun 2014 #43
It's like Lennon said... deutsey Jun 2014 #25
Nothing to get hung about. Octafish Jun 2014 #63
I'd prefer a Schrodinger Universe Demeter Jun 2014 #27
That idea is hard to just wave off. retread Jun 2014 #42
Dark Matter whether cold, warm or hot is the placenta of the Universe. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #29
Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live. Rex Jun 2014 #31
Generally, if your study finds something you know for an absolute certainty is wrong... gcomeau Jun 2014 #33
Really? Another explanation is that... Helen Borg Jun 2014 #36
I was thinking of that one. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #39
Science continues to produce such amazing insights! Now we're not actually here! struggle4progress Jun 2014 #40
Cool! well, we might as well take the rest of the day off Ken Burch Jun 2014 #41
I think, therefore I am ECHOFIELDS Jun 2014 #44
Juicy magic, Thanks. n/t Whisp Jun 2014 #45
I am not eating the spaghetti, sausage and zucchini LuvLoogie Jun 2014 #46
I Got Higgs Bosoned Just A Couple Of Weeks Ago, Right Here On DU !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #49
The no shit Sherlock award goes to the PhD student who said Vattel Jun 2014 #50
First, there is a Universe; then there is no Universe; then there is! LongTomH Jun 2014 #52
Mellow Yellowish Octafish Jun 2014 #69
! Alex P Notkeaton Jun 2014 #54
well, that's a relief. Warren DeMontague Jun 2014 #55
Whew. opiate69 Jun 2014 #73
Who says it does? n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #59
Maybe we all exist within that "fraction of a second..." hunter Jun 2014 #70
I think you win this thread with that statement pediatricmedic Jun 2014 #85
Thank you. Atman Jun 2014 #71
And So It Goes colsohlibgal Jun 2014 #74
I read about that ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #75
Was that sarcasm? KamaAina Jun 2014 #76
Clearly there is a flaw in their research Takket Jun 2014 #80
Sounds like they have no idea what happened Renew Deal Jun 2014 #81
Gawd done it. Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #82
This is a problem for "Flo". CK_John Jun 2014 #84
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