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Tarheel_Dem

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33. It's not you the president has to reach. But "fighting" is subjective, no?

Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:22 PM

Apr 2012

Granted, this president is no barnyard scrapper, he's much more dignified than that, which is why he was elected in the first place. Partisans on the left & right love the "fighting", in fact I think they're more addicted to that than they are about the actual issues, as long as someone is seen to be "fighting". People makes loads of money off the "fighting", so they have a vested interest in making sure the "fighting" continues.

Well guess what? A lot of folks can't afford the extreme partisan "fighting" that causes the kind of gridlock we've witnessed since the midterms. That's a luxury of the well fed, and no doubt well educated among us, but not so good for the unwashed masses.

Bloggers love "fighting". TV hosts love "fighting". Activists love "fighting". Newspaper columnists love "fighting". But you know who's caught in the middle of all the "fighting"? The very people you claim to be "fighting" for. Whether you like it or not, it takes "moderates" to actually get anything done in this climate. Otherwise, we're just "fighting" for the sake of "fighting", which is an immense waste of time and resources.

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This Obama quote should be carved in stone somewhere [View all] LuckyTheDog Apr 2012 OP

carved in stone and adhered to... russspeakeasy Apr 2012 #1

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