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freshwest

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63. That's true. And 'domestic violence' has literally been de-criminalized in some states.
Mon Jul 14, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Mon Jul 14, 2014, 09:58 PM - Edit history (2)

Laws stricken off the books. Those are states where shelters, rape crisis centers and other help have not only been defunded as others, but repealed.

Several excuses offered to explain the lack of enforcement, although it was always inconsistent and varied by state. And it was a tool to neuter the federal VAWA

Here's a few I've read or heard about:

Women should stay with their abuser to keep themselves and their children off the welfare rolls;

Domestic abuse and rape laws are used to discriminate against men and break up the family to make them dependent on government;

Children of married couples do better than in single mom or female head of household than in divorced homes;

That the abuser is being denied the chance to support his family while he is locked up to keep him away from her;

I'm not even going into religious ones, since the excuse of 'lower taxes' works for more people.

States that dare to hold to account such crimes, are labeled 'police states' who break upon families to steal children for child sex slave rings.

Yes, they really do say that. After all, no government program or agency can be trusted. But churches and private groups are doing such a great job, aren't they?

The bottom line is the abuser can be trusted. If the woman is silent, the problem disappears. Along with her, too, sometimes...

How would you feel? [View all] BainsBane Jul 2014 OP
Also today someone posted about disheartening it is to not be able to get djean111 Jul 2014 #1
Yep, that's exactly the sort of thing BainsBane Jul 2014 #2
My take-away was that not being happy about one's job situation reflects poorly on djean111 Jul 2014 #3
I just read it and it pissed me off! hrmjustin Jul 2014 #4
Exactly BainsBane Jul 2014 #5
It remind me of this winter when a new member of my congregation confided in me her story. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #6
true that. true... that. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #14
Just a few BainsBane Jul 2014 #48
Men want to diminish the impact of sexual crimes against women. MohRokTah Jul 2014 #7
Please define "many" with a percentage you bulieve to be true. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #28
Really? F4lconF16 Jul 2014 #31
Yeh, really. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #42
Google it BainsBane Jul 2014 #43
Bullshit on my not knowing what's being discussed. HERVEPA Jul 2014 #44
I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt. BainsBane Jul 2014 #45
Doesn't that qualify as "language policing?" Does "language policing" only happen when feminists Squinch Jul 2014 #52
I think we know the criies about censorship BainsBane Jul 2014 #72
Which must be censored. Squinch Jul 2014 #73
Absolutely BainsBane Jul 2014 #74
Ugh. I know. And this makes me absolutely sick. smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #36
k&r. While perhaps gross numbers are down, it demeans individuals when that is posted in stories uppityperson Jul 2014 #8
One victim is one victim too many. dawg Jul 2014 #9
Well said BainsBane Jul 2014 #10
That's how I feel about hot car deaths of children and pets... Phentex Jul 2014 #57
Thank you for articulating why certain posts in that thread made me (and others) uncomfortable. n/t nomorenomore08 Jul 2014 #11
If you're going to get all meta, how about including a link? Link here. Electric Monk Jul 2014 #12
You've seen it plenty of times in gun threads BainsBane Jul 2014 #15
Yes, I see the similarities too, and both examples show someones true agenda. Electric Monk Jul 2014 #18
You know I couldn't do that BainsBane Jul 2014 #19
it is addressing rape, rape culture, and how discussion on rape culture is derailed. seabeyond Jul 2014 #16
I don't think you know what meta means, but you sure like to throw jabs. Electric Monk Jul 2014 #17
i dont want to play so i will leave it at, thank you for the welcome back. nt seabeyond Jul 2014 #20
It happens repeatedly. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #23
Here is how I interpret such responses. DURHAM D Jul 2014 #13
I guess it is also alert worthy FreedRadical Jul 2014 #21
It would depend on whether or not the incident is also an argument for el_bryanto Jul 2014 #22
"What you do to them you do to me." J rickyhall Jul 2014 #24
You clarified this perfectly for me earlier when you said in reference to something else: freshwest Jul 2014 #25
Yes, and I think that is especially relevant to the rape issue BainsBane Jul 2014 #41
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2014 #56
+1 redqueen Jul 2014 #58
"There is nothing progressive or liberal about it" AMEN Number23 Jul 2014 #70
At least annoyed. elleng Jul 2014 #26
It's arrogant and rude to diminish someone's LibDemAlways Jul 2014 #27
Sorry that you had to experience that. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #29
Unfortunately, it happens virtually every time BainsBane Jul 2014 #49
F*** Statistics! MarianJack Jul 2014 #30
Not to mention that the "statistics" referenced F4lconF16 Jul 2014 #33
This is, of course, completely true. But the other point about the statistics is that we all Squinch Jul 2014 #55
Maybe she was asking for it, the way impoverished families are asking for it. Orrex Jul 2014 #32
And the way 6-year-olds from central and south America are asking for it by crossing our borders Squinch Jul 2014 #54
Exactly! Orrex Jul 2014 #59
People like that pull out numbers when it suits them. liberalmuse Jul 2014 #34
Isn't that the truth BainsBane Jul 2014 #35
+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #37
K&R! smirkymonkey Jul 2014 #38
I live in Louisiana... New Orleans Strong Jul 2014 #39
I'm so sorry BainsBane Jul 2014 #40
Another side of this is ideology that diminishes the desperation of those who seek solutions. freshwest Jul 2014 #46
Good point BainsBane Jul 2014 #47
kick BainsBane Jul 2014 #50
kick & recommended. William769 Jul 2014 #51
The percentages are down, and yet STILL one in four women is assaulted in her lifetime. Squinch Jul 2014 #53
Not to mention rape statistics are notoriously unreliable BainsBane Jul 2014 #60
That's true. And 'domestic violence' has literally been de-criminalized in some states. freshwest Jul 2014 #63
Seriously, this makes me feel nauseous. When people talk about how feminists are too Squinch Jul 2014 #71
is this analogous to science diminishing the personal anecdote ... ? Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #61
Can you give an example? BainsBane Jul 2014 #62
I rather think you just did. If, I am understanding correctly what is happening here. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #64
Yes, I guess you're right BainsBane Jul 2014 #67
and this kinds of feeds of itself because we doubt the numerical truth of the stats Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #68
No. /nt yardwork Jul 2014 #65
indubitably. eom Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2014 #66
On an inter-personal level, what I describe in the OP is what therapists call BainsBane Jul 2014 #69
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