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169. Yep! No Argument Here.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:32 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Wed Aug 13, 2014, 03:29 PM - Edit history (3)

In the same way that posting glossy, artfully-lit photographs of guns gleaming in their gun oil (gun-porn, if you will) is an attack on any board attempting a reasonable, considered discussion of prudent gun control measures. It's a not-so-subtle threat.

It's the context, stupid! To those that defend this behavior: Would you post a picture of KKK regalia on a civil rights forum? What could that possibly mean? The intent is pretty clear, isn't it? If it wasn't, the garden-variety, room-temperature I.Q. shock-artist types that engage in this behavior wouldn't do it. What about posting pictures of brass knuckles and/or blackjacks on a forum dedicated to discussing spousal abuse? WHEE-HEE; great fun! Right?

There are days I'm ashamed of the human race. The craven cowardice and idiocy (of a sizable portion of both sexes) is apparently endless.

PS. But back to my gender: It's irrelevant that you, a male, enjoy/defend/purchase pornography--perhaps even while considering yourself a feminist. That's an entirely different heated discussion/argument. As Aristotle said: The highest ethical behavior is the right thing, at the right time, with the right person, for the right reason.

Posting porn on feminist discussion forums? In case it wasn't entirely clear by now: The wrong thing, at the wrong time, with the wrong persons, for the wrong reasons.

Ladies: on this, I feel your pain and irritation. And sense of incredulity that anyone could ever argue otherwise.

Are people doing this? HERVEPA Aug 2014 #1
There is a thread discussing these attacks at Jezebel. redqueen Aug 2014 #4
so why bring it here? Nobel_Twaddle_III Aug 2014 #177
What do you think discussion forums are for?nt sufrommich Aug 2014 #179
Just questioning the motivation. Nobel_Twaddle_III Aug 2014 #180
Why? Iris Aug 2014 #196
A bold and obvious stance LostInAnomie Aug 2014 #2
It could be a misogynistic attack MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #3
Much as posting racist remarks on the NAACP website could simply be garden variety trolling...? LanternWaste Aug 2014 #7
No, because racist remarks are ipso facto, racist. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #10
Racism may be rationalized by the user as easily as porn... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #12
I suppose that there are gray areas for both MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #19
A swastika painted on a synagogue may be simple graffiti, or it may be racist by your measure... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #45
Not really. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #63
I feel the same way as you do, Manny. CTyankee Aug 2014 #90
And you really think... TDale313 Aug 2014 #132
For the 18th time, *violent* porn is not mentioned in the OP MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #156
Yes, this was clearly a response... TDale313 Aug 2014 #175
*Anything* creating a hostile environment is wrong MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #184
Even in the OP... TDale313 Aug 2014 #188
Words have meanings. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #189
I won't speak for the OP... TDale313 Aug 2014 #193
Posting porn on a feminist website is an act of hostility that is inherently misogynistic. pnwmom Aug 2014 #208
Agreed. Anytime porn is published on a non-porn site, it is a form of sexual harassment. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #207
you give us a hard time if we don't get your OP's CreekDog Aug 2014 #178
I shouldn't. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #185
Violent porn gifs on a feminist site are inherently misogynistic. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #148
Violent porn gifs are not mentioned in the OP MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #154
Okay then, let's limit it to the generic "porn gifs" mentioned in the OP Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #171
Stop trying to put this in the context of what so commonly happens when women blog on the internet! bettyellen Aug 2014 #192
Not by the Hindus intaglio Aug 2014 #201
Why was it important for you to minimize the seriousness of this? pnwmom Aug 2014 #105
It wasn't and isn't. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #120
You felt the need to defend the creeps by saying you think it is "possible" pnwmom Aug 2014 #133
I wasn't defending anybody. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #140
You just don't get it. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #142
You say terrible things, can't back them with facts, then MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #152
So you minimize the misogyny but blame others for pointing it out and play the victim. Well played KittyWampus Aug 2014 #143
That is a matter of opinion. Regardless, when it is posted in the comments about feminist issues redqueen Aug 2014 #16
I disagree. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #22
We will just have to disagree then. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #25
Manny. Your mom called. She wants you to clean up under your bed. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #30
Any act of posting porn in the comments section of Jezebel is misogynistic.n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #161
First off, suppose I posted a screen frame from a porno film in response MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #164
Yes. Posting an image of porn is different from having a discussion of issues involved in porn. pnwmom Aug 2014 #168
It is when it's used with the intent of mocking or humiliating a woman. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #95
Rape porn is always misogynistic. pnwmom Aug 2014 #104
"Rape porn" was not mentioned in the OP MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #135
The poster specifically mentioned Jezebel in her next post, #4. pnwmom Aug 2014 #137
First off, if that's what she meant in the OP, then she should update her OP MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #144
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Aug 2014 #206
if you change the details of the incident CreekDog Aug 2014 #176
It is a type of trolling. MISOGYNIST trolling using MISOGYNISTIC attacks. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #8
It's both. ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #26
The OP just said "porn", not "rape pix" MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #27
I have not personally seen the pornographic posts, ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #37
I don't know *what* they are. MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #66
Not assuming motivation is wise, in my opinion, ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #68
It's not either/or: it's misogynistic trolling. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #102
Is it happening at DU or does this refer to the Jezebel article? n/t FSogol Aug 2014 #5
The Jezebel article redqueen Aug 2014 #9
I'm not sure it was minimized. People suggested tech solutions, which while however unsatisfying, FSogol Aug 2014 #84
Not talking about those who refused to address rhe cause rather than the symptoms... redqueen Aug 2014 #86
People *refused* to address the cause? MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #147
what is it called when you post two hours of cats meowing? snooper2 Aug 2014 #6
The fact that there is such a thing as a sufrommich Aug 2014 #11
I agree. The fact that people defend that shit is just another indication redqueen Aug 2014 #13
Please, take it up with 4chan and /b/ Electric Monk Aug 2014 #23
I will discuss it here. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #44
I don't think it's confined to those creeps. Even if they're among the worst. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #98
+1 leftstreet Aug 2014 #14
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #17
So the gifs were posted to please and thrill users? leftstreet Aug 2014 #20
I was not talking about the images posted in a thread Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #24
But it doesn't even make any sense leftstreet Aug 2014 #34
I have no idea why they were posted. Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #36
You wanted to talk about women enjoying rape leftstreet Aug 2014 #41
No. If those people want to film themselves pretending to engage in a hate crime for kicks redqueen Aug 2014 #21
Why not? Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #28
Presenting violence against women as sexy and arousing is FUCKED UP. INDEFENSIBLE. redqueen Aug 2014 #39
That's fine. Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #42
Perhaps you aren't aware, but rape porn has been defended here many times redqueen Aug 2014 #48
Rape is a crime,not a sexual aid. sufrommich Aug 2014 #29
I don't doubt it Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #33
And yet you're defending the posting of rape porn on a site like Jezebel, pnwmom Aug 2014 #162
Why does someone have to bring up historylovr Aug 2014 #190
is this why you had a problem with cali posting a thread about the rape threat pm she got ? JI7 Aug 2014 #35
I don't know what connection you're trying to make Blue_Adept Aug 2014 #40
it's actually not separate at all JI7 Aug 2014 #43
Poor misunderstood misogynists. JTFrog Aug 2014 #199
If you're talking about stuff that's obviously simulated - with disclaimers etc. - then you might nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #101
You nailed it right there. Thanks. freshwest Aug 2014 #56
Very much so. closeupready Aug 2014 #15
Modern day night riding from the comfort of your home rocktivity Aug 2014 #18
I concur. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #31
Is someone calling it something other than that? n/t ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #32
Generally, I've found that anything redqueen doesn't like is a "misogynist attack." Atman Aug 2014 #38
Scawy,scawy feminist overlords. sufrommich Aug 2014 #46
Wow n/t leftstreet Aug 2014 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #49
lol!! darkangel218 Aug 2014 #51
Ouch, now you did it! darkangel218 Aug 2014 #50
You really do live in your own private Idaho there, dontcha? redqueen Aug 2014 #52
Not at all. Atman Aug 2014 #57
Some people remember what you say. redqueen Aug 2014 #59
Yes, and others are mature enough to understand it. Atman Aug 2014 #61
All the men here I get along with will find your comment... amusing... I'm sure. redqueen Aug 2014 #65
I don't post at Discussionist. Sorry to burst your absolutist bubble. Atman Aug 2014 #69
Well wherever you're posting these days, I hope they're more your kind of people. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #73
Oh, you made an assumption that was WRONG? Atman Aug 2014 #78
People who think it's fine to use terms like "skanky snatch". nt redqueen Aug 2014 #80
I use lots of terms. Atman Aug 2014 #87
I can't ban anyone so your sad little persecution complex is misguided. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #89
I didn't say YOU did. I said I am banned from HoF. Atman Aug 2014 #97
!!!!!! redqueen Aug 2014 #115
Only the Hosts of Any Group have the power to ban a person. There is no other way. Now, Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2014 #124
so why are there many guys who are not offended by what she says and doesn't think JI7 Aug 2014 #67
I honestly don't even understand what you're trying to say. Atman Aug 2014 #77
haha, you respond as if you think she is talking about you JI7 Aug 2014 #79
No, actually. I responded that I don't know WTF you're talking about. Atman Aug 2014 #85
that's not all you responded with JI7 Aug 2014 #91
Yes, actually. That is all I responded with. Atman Aug 2014 #93
Please, please mercuryblues Aug 2014 #153
I've noticed that too... Rex Aug 2014 #139
Please post a link to redqueen saying "all men are evil." Thanks. Nt. thucythucy Aug 2014 #155
No link. No reply. No surprise. Nt. thucythucy Aug 2014 #203
there are a few who have posted on DU, their hopes that the age of consent would be lowered CreekDog Aug 2014 #181
"You can't have any other opinion without being labeled a misogynist." alp227 Aug 2014 #159
Alert on your post failed, jury says 5-2 to leave. Skip Intro Aug 2014 #53
This system is such a joke. redqueen Aug 2014 #54
Never underestimate the immaturity level of supposedly sufrommich Aug 2014 #58
Nobody who pays any attention is fooled. redqueen Aug 2014 #60
You must not be paying attention. Atman Aug 2014 #62
all the while insisting they are the good ones JI7 Aug 2014 #64
It's pathetic, really. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #74
You noticed that too? nt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #94
Wow. And on a progressive site. SunSeeker Aug 2014 #75
Riddle me this, Batman... Atman Aug 2014 #81
Lay off the all caps and take it down a notch. SunSeeker Aug 2014 #112
Sorry, I won't. You're not even responding to me. Atman Aug 2014 #116
So you agree rape gifs posted on feminist threads are mysogynistic? SunSeeker Aug 2014 #126
No answer to your very simple question. thucythucy Aug 2014 #183
Yes, rather telling... Atman Aug 2014 #186
So you're here now, yes? thucythucy Aug 2014 #187
Still no answer to your question, thucythucy Aug 2014 #204
Yes, I noticed that too, thucythucy. SunSeeker Aug 2014 #205
I'm surprised anyone even bothers alerting on stuff like that anymore. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #82
I suppose you continue to think the "system is such a joke." former9thward Aug 2014 #134
The fact that or works some percentage of the time does not mean it's functional. redqueen Aug 2014 #157
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #100
You don't think it's a matter of black and white that posting rape porn on Jezebel pnwmom Aug 2014 #111
Please comment on the subject I responded to otherwise our conversation is over. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2014 #197
I am addressing your comment. Please clean the wax out of your ears. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #198
found the same with you mercuryblues Aug 2014 #103
Wow, some nasty stuff right there. No wonder. n/t demmiblue Aug 2014 #109
Totally lame attempt. Atman Aug 2014 #110
You are mercuryblues Aug 2014 #146
-100 nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #106
Posting rape porn on a feminist site like Jezebel is always a misogynist attack, pnwmom Aug 2014 #108
Can a woman be a misogynist? I ask because there is a theory that non-whites kelly1mm Aug 2014 #170
I suppose so, under certain circumstances. Although the chance that women are responsible for pnwmom Aug 2014 #172
I would love to hear you defend the concept that porno-bombing a Feminist website isn't trolling. chrisa Aug 2014 #136
Wow. This is how you reply to an OP about a feminist website thucythucy Aug 2014 #167
Posting porn in the comments section at Jezebel is a "misogynist attack" tammywammy Aug 2014 #174
I agree DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #55
... nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #114
Are you against all porn or just rape porn? Do you consider all porn to be misogynistic? w4rma Aug 2014 #70
I consider any porn posted in the comments about articles concerning feminist issues redqueen Aug 2014 #71
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #83
"posted in the comments about articles concerning feminist issues" nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #119
I didn't ignore that part. Atman Aug 2014 #125
Even still, how is posting porn with the apparent aim of mocking or embarrassing someone nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #128
It was posted by someone who was deliberately attacking the women who read Jezebel, pnwmom Aug 2014 #165
And you are correct. No reasonable person could argue otherwise. pnwmom Aug 2014 #163
Thank you for clarifying. I agree. That sounds like trolling to me, too. (nt) w4rma Aug 2014 #202
What I hate is when someone feels they have to rush in and whine about male rights. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #72
Yep that derailing tactic is WAY more common redqueen Aug 2014 #76
Interesting Conundrum Treant Aug 2014 #88
Conservatives aren't an oppressed group. redqueen Aug 2014 #92
It makes perfect sense... Atman Aug 2014 #96
Stop throwing a pity party for yourself. I never called you a misogynist pig. redqueen Aug 2014 #113
Misogynist pig. Treant Aug 2014 #123
Funny, you say there are more nuanced issues worth discussing, so why are you in this thread? Rex Aug 2014 #131
That makes no sense... Treant Aug 2014 #117
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Aug 2014 #200
no more than black history month is discrimination against whites JI7 Aug 2014 #99
It is an anti-conservative attack. But "conservative" and "liberal" aren't protected categories. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #209
Were they posted by men or women or you don't know? n/t dilby Aug 2014 #107
Either way, the intent is to mock or humiliate female (usually feminist) posters. n/t nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #122
Unless I know the sex of the poster I can't make a decision on if it's misogyny or not. n/t dilby Aug 2014 #129
And you've never noticed how many women harbor internalized misogyny? nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #160
Of course you can. A woman could be a misogynist if she gained pleasure pnwmom Aug 2014 #194
So sad you even have to say this. TDale313 Aug 2014 #118
I know. As someone PMed me today said, this place just gets worse and worse. redqueen Aug 2014 #130
whats going on at DU lately MikeW Aug 2014 #121
Why not? Texasgal Aug 2014 #138
it doesnt belong in GD MikeW Aug 2014 #150
That's not true. From TOS for GD: SunSeeker Aug 2014 #158
"mysogony talk doesnt belong in the GD section" redqueen Aug 2014 #151
Why can't people address misogyny and sexual harassment in GD? pnwmom Aug 2014 #195
4chan is a pox on the WWW. Rex Aug 2014 #127
Lot's of trolls out there. 99Forever Aug 2014 #141
Trolls are miserable creatures and in order to feel better, they have to make others come down Rex Aug 2014 #145
I would say it depends on the intent of those trolls. Iron Man Aug 2014 #149
Very true. Old and In the Way Aug 2014 #182
I agree. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #166
Yep! No Argument Here. cer7711 Aug 2014 #169
Well, yeah AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #173
The local fabric store has a serial flasher. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #191
Thank you. Besides promoting discussion, the OP has allowed misogynists to unmask themselves. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #210
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