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daredtowork

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50. churches should understand the reason why
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 02:08 PM
Aug 2014

The type of aid they offer is fragmented and not enough. It is the same is when a random person cries "help me!" on the Internet, and it's the luck of a draw whether they find some person or community willing to do that - or whether they just find "compassion fatigue" or people who are jaded and cynical because they were besieged by scammers the last time they exhibited the willingness to help anyone.

The idea of secular welfare: regular/reliable, impartial, designed to enable people survive and, if possible, lift them back into the mainstream.

Well, that's the idea.

Sure, there are plenty of people who might just stay on an alternative system to work if it's offered. But why not? There's not enough work. We have an economic system with a "natural" 6% unemployment rate already - though it's been larger for years, and it's only going to get better. Welfare is a bad choice of alternative lifestyle: you will get very little in the way of "discretionary" income, your mobility will be low, you just wont be able to do much with your life. Any person who wants anything out of their life will want to find another way. But if someone doesn't want to, why not let them?

If people do make this "choice", isn't the actual question why are the circumstances of the paying workplace so bad that people would "want" to flee? Maybe the onus is on business owners to make the prospect of work more attractive so people won't choose the alternative route.

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K&R.... daleanime Aug 2014 #1
Missed TY to this one daredtowork Aug 2014 #20
No need to thank me...... daleanime Aug 2014 #22
I think if people really saw the causes, we'd deal with it daredtowork Aug 2014 #27
Unfortunately, the big monied people own Congress truedelphi Aug 2014 #38
The disempowerment problem daredtowork Aug 2014 #39
A big K&R. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #2
Good luck tomorrow renate Aug 2014 #3
Thank you for your support. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #9
Are You Able to Do Volunteer Activities? daredtowork Aug 2014 #18
Pardon me for not getting back in touch with you earlier. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #43
Food Stamps are attached to work? daredtowork Aug 2014 #46
Yes, there are work requirements in order for a single person to receive food stamps (SNAP). TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #52
To help clarify this daredtowork Aug 2014 #54
In addition, if a recipient tries to collect on SNAP benefits TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #53
The other big stressor in here daredtowork Aug 2014 #55
See post #43. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #44
I'm so glad!! renate Aug 2014 #49
Illustrates the point daredtowork Aug 2014 #4
thank you for posting this....maybe it will wake up some of the masses Stargazer99 Aug 2014 #6
The Biggest Problem Is No One Can See It daredtowork Aug 2014 #10
btw daredtowork Aug 2014 #5
I was on Lyrica between six to seven years. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #8
That's another problem daredtowork Aug 2014 #12
It's true tht some days can be worse than others. No Vested Interest Aug 2014 #13
wise advice daredtowork Aug 2014 #15
Thank you. TexasTowelie Aug 2014 #45
So happy for your good news re staying No Vested Interest Aug 2014 #48
Antipoverty programs are being sacrificed at the altar of tax cuts for the wealthy. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #7
You may have misunderstood the word "reform" daredtowork Aug 2014 #14
I understood perfectly well what reform meant. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #24
Yes the Clintons came in with a trumpets blaring daredtowork Aug 2014 #28
It is a matter of changing the trend of our national conversation. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #35
I agree, but you're wrong about the church daredtowork Aug 2014 #36
I don't think we have an argument. LiberalAndProud Aug 2014 #37
I totally agree - church programs do nothing to lift people out of poverty daredtowork Aug 2014 #40
Oh, snap maced666 Aug 2014 #47
churches should understand the reason why daredtowork Aug 2014 #50
btw daredtowork Aug 2014 #51
Rec! progressoid Aug 2014 #11
TY for the Tiger Power daredtowork Aug 2014 #16
K&R rpannier Aug 2014 #17
TY for the K and the R daredtowork Aug 2014 #19
It's important for people to know about rpannier Aug 2014 #21
If you participate on other forums, bring it up daredtowork Aug 2014 #30
Kick and Rec! Excellent OP and informative bulletin. nt adirondacker Aug 2014 #23
Thank you! daredtowork Aug 2014 #31
K&R Moosepoop Aug 2014 #25
The Irony daredtowork Aug 2014 #32
A friend once said that the stress of being poor was like the panic you feel when drowning riderinthestorm Aug 2014 #26
It Does Feel Like Drowning daredtowork Aug 2014 #33
Thank you for posting this Tree-Hugger Aug 2014 #29
I keep hoping neurons can be regenerated daredtowork Aug 2014 #34
K & R - excellen graphic and OP. Even more insightful discussion thread. salin Aug 2014 #41
Thank You daredtowork Aug 2014 #42
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