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Tommy_Carcetti

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48. Even when Parry's not completely wrong, he still comes off as the huge hypocrite that he is.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 11:54 AM
Sep 2014

He focuses strictly on the Azov battalion--one of several private militias currently operating in Ukraine independently of the command of Ukraine's army and national guard. And indeed there does seem to be a strong neo-Nazi ideology amongst members of this group. It is undoubtedly disturbing.

However, Parry being Parry, he makes several mistakes fatal to whatever he wants his ultimate point to be. First, he conflates the actions of private militias with those of the Ukrainian government. These are not Ukrainian government troops, period. That they may be conducting their own operations in the same theater does not mean they should be considered one and the same. Secondly, he seems to assume all the private militias are comprised with people with the same neo-Nazi type sentiments as you might find in Azov. You can't just assume--as Parry does--that all these militias are fighting under this mindset. And Azov's a relatively small force--only a few hundred fighters or so, many of whom aren't trained or equipped nearly as well as the regular army, so whatever ultimate impact they may have on the battlefield isn't exactly very clear.

Essentially, Asov's taken the bogeyman role on the pro-Russian side that Right Sector and Svoboda used to have before the presidential election revealed them to have very little public support amongst Ukrainians. The pro-Russian side (and Parry is, without a doubt, very pro-Russian) needs someone to point to so they can mark the Ukrainians and their government as neo-Nazi, or fascist, so to give a clear narrative that the people fighting them are fighting against fascism.

And that's where Parry's gross hypocrisy in this piece comes into play. He criticizes the "western media" for creating a "white hat vs. black hat" narrative with the Ukrainians and their government as the good guys and the separatists and the Russian government as the bad guys.

But that's exactly what he's been doing all along, since February, except in reverse. He's always painted the Ukrainian government in the most unflattering of tones. See how he's insisted--without any evidence whatsoever--that what happened in February was a "coup", and a U.S. backed one at that. He framed the May 2nd mob violence in Odessa as some sort of modern day pogrom massacre of pro-Russian "anti-fascists" by Ukrainian "neo-Nazis" even though even a cursory look at the days events reveal it to be a much more complicated situation than that with both sides at fault.

He's never said a good thing about the Ukrainian government, and hasn't seemed to say anything bad about the separatists or the Russian government, which makes his agenda very questionable.

The truth is, yes, there are neo-Nazis living in Ukraine. There are also neo-Nazis and fascists living in Russia (see Aleksandr Dugin) and neo-Nazis and fascists fighting amongst the seperatists, but Parry won't have any of that. The sad thing is, neo-Nazis are just an unfortunate fact of life just about everywhere.

Parry's supporters insist he is still the principled "investigative journalist" of decades back, but the cold, hard truth is he researches little and reports nothing beyond what his agenda supports. For example, someone so seemingly obsessed with neo-Nazis and fascists in Ukraine would probably take note of the fact that Pavel Gubarev, the "people's governor" of Donetsk, was a proud member of Russian National Unity, a fascist/neo-Nazi paramilitary organization, and Gubarev to this date appears to be very proud of the association. But that runs contrary to Parry's own narrative. So the only mention Parry has ever made of Gubarev merely makes him out to have been some sort of political prisoner of the Ukrainian government:

http://consortiumnews.com/2014/04/04/the-age-of-the-oligarchs/

For the people who just looooove to quote Robert Parry because of what he did 30 years ago:

Robert Parry is not being honest with you. Robert Parry is a disingenuous, hypocritical hack. Still.

The New York Times??? malaise Sep 2014 #1
Character Assassins love social media. Octafish Sep 2014 #30
AND it can be automated! nashville_brook Sep 2014 #32
Smear Once. Use Often. Octafish Sep 2014 #40
Parry. LOL...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #2
What we both know is coming in 3...2...1... NuclearDem Sep 2014 #7
Yup. 'Robert Parry is one of the most credible journalists in the world... SidDithers Sep 2014 #8
"Same shit, different day. Sid." Karmadillo Sep 2014 #11
Lol, I was counting, 1,2,3, wait for it, wait for it! You too? Is the sky blue, does the sun rise sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #13
it never ceases to amaze me how SURE people can be about nashville_brook Sep 2014 #35
Exactly, the US Media was totally wrong about Iraq, and Parry was right. It is amazing that sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #43
And there it is... SidDithers Sep 2014 #29
You predicted Nuclear Dem's posts also? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #44
Fringe lunatics like Parry should be embarrassed... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #3
Thank you for your response. Could you please specify what Parry is making up Karmadillo Sep 2014 #4
Those Nazi attackes on Russians... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #5
I think you mistyped Poroshenko reorg Sep 2014 #9
Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists Karmadillo Sep 2014 #12
Maybe you should try pulling your head out of the TV? MattSh Sep 2014 #34
What did he make up? It appears now that even the MSM has found their conscience, and are beginning sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #14
Those Russian troops are just on vacation! NuclearDem Sep 2014 #6
You mean like two US Senators and members of the State Dept were just 'passing through' on THEIR sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #15
OFFS sabrina. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #18
Every thread about Russia IS about the US. Do you know how much money we are spending over there? sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #19
OFFS. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #39
This has nothing to do with anything fadedrose Sep 2014 #42
" . . . you seem to pop up in nearly every thread about it . . . " Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #20
It's absolutely NOT a coincidence. See my response to that post and you won't need to guess why sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #33
And how many Blackstone/Xe/Academi are over there? MattSh Sep 2014 #36
He once wrote some great articles about how Bush and his cronies are douchebags! zappaman Sep 2014 #10
I know I've been asking this question and cannot get an answer. We know you don't like any of the sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #16
Russia has deployed Chechens to fight. Igel Sep 2014 #17
Cancelled Gay Pride in Kyiv Signals Conservative Shift in Ukraine reorg Sep 2014 #21
Putin supporters pretending to care about GLBT rights. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #24
Sidestepping the N-word reorg Sep 2014 #25
There are Nazis everywhere. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #27
Look far right, and look right again reorg Sep 2014 #22
The big lie from the Russian fascists' propaganda machine. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #23
Please tell us which European government reorg Sep 2014 #26
Do you consider Russia part of Europe? geek tragedy Sep 2014 #28
Ukraine is the first country where Neonazis joined a government coalition reorg Sep 2014 #45
Get back to us after the parliamentary elections. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #46
"Parry is a fascist bootlicker." nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #37
Putin is a fascist. Parry licks his boots geek tragedy Sep 2014 #38
There are a whole lot of Parrys out there reporting exactly what he is reporting. I guess all of sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #47
Russia is a state sponsor of Nazism in Europe geek tragedy Sep 2014 #31
I pity the people of Ukraine. JEB Sep 2014 #41
Even when Parry's not completely wrong, he still comes off as the huge hypocrite that he is. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #48
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