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1. I don't know. I would hit anyone who hit me first.

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If a woman is hitting me....I still won't hit her. [View all] trumad Sep 2014 OP

I don't know. I would hit anyone who hit me first. Recursion Sep 2014 #1

IMHO, you should use only such force as is necessary to protect yourself as you retreat./NT DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #6

Maybe I'm unromantic Recursion Sep 2014 #7

That's pretty much my first impulse, too. Then I get that flash of rationality and get out of dodge BlueCaliDem Sep 2014 #257

As I have taught my son's & has always been my rule as giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #2

Nope.... trumad Sep 2014 #4

And if you can't run? randome Sep 2014 #8

Well why can't you? trumad Sep 2014 #15

Close quarters. randome Sep 2014 #17

I would get my son and daughter out of there... trumad Sep 2014 #19

Normal domestic type shit involves trapping people in close quarters joeglow3 Sep 2014 #104

What if she just starts wailing on you & doesn't stop? giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #10

I wouldn't hit either, unless I saw no other way to protect myself. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #76

Most guys don't think women like you exist. edgineered Sep 2014 #228

I've met girls like you. Xyzse Sep 2014 #256

I don't fight unless I have to. giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #297

Well, for someone like me, it was ingrained from a young age. Xyzse Sep 2014 #298

I've always taught my kids that you don't swing first giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #306

That's a good way to go about it. Xyzse Sep 2014 #310

Yeah, I've learned that with age. giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #313

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Oh Pinto trumad Sep 2014 #12

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Only little boys I remember are the MRA gang trumad Sep 2014 #23

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look..I say I wouldn't punch a woman with a fist trumad Sep 2014 #27

Would you punch a man with a closed fist? joeglow3 Sep 2014 #109

I really have to explain the distinction? trumad Sep 2014 #113

it wasnt healthy for me to walk into this thread. my eyes kinda opened in surprise, at that one. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #214

Quit the bullshit joeglow3 Sep 2014 #235

quit the bullshit on expressing my experience reading your post? you are telling me seabeyond Sep 2014 #237

Quit the bullshit logic you fail at employing joeglow3 Sep 2014 #239

Omg... Lmfao. I am so tired of you posters continually taking it to seabeyond Sep 2014 #246

You responded with faux outrage that would have done Fox News proud joeglow3 Sep 2014 #247

at least here i can actually address your accusations. first. 1. faux outrage? you accuse. seabeyond Sep 2014 #266

And I clearly stated it is sexist to assume ALL women are weaker to ALL men joeglow3 Sep 2014 #269

"Are you saying"... no. you are saying that. quit. seabeyond Sep 2014 #270

"Would you punch a man with a closed fist? If yes, why the distinction." seabeyond Sep 2014 #271

Trumad made a claim that he would NEVER strike a female with a closed fist joeglow3 Sep 2014 #272

"Would you punch a man with a closed fist? If yes, why the distinction." seabeyond Sep 2014 #273

So, it appears the disagreement is around the fact that you like statements that are absolutes joeglow3 Sep 2014 #274

"he fact that you like statements that are absolutes". no. there is no FACT in your false accusation seabeyond Sep 2014 #276

"i did not even read the rest of your post." VERY convenient... joeglow3 Sep 2014 #277

OMG.... omg omg. "Like I said, intellectually dishonest." seabeyond Sep 2014 #278

Then read the substance of what I wrote and respond joeglow3 Sep 2014 #280

no. you lose the respect of having your post read, when i immediately come up on a fabricated seabeyond Sep 2014 #283

"fact that you like statements that are absolutes" i call bullshit. is that clear enough? seabeyond Sep 2014 #284

Bull shit joeglow3 Sep 2014 #286

no. i did not read what you posted. and now. i am done. seabeyond Sep 2014 #287

I already explained how it is not a fabrication. You just decided to not read those posts. joeglow3 Sep 2014 #289

Yes. You really have to explain the distinction. joeglow3 Sep 2014 #236

Look---let's just put it this way trumad Sep 2014 #241

Like I said, we both know why you wouldn't answer the question joeglow3 Sep 2014 #245

Yeah--suuuuure you are. trumad Sep 2014 #254

Then why the refusal to answer the question? joeglow3 Sep 2014 #258

What the distinction thing? trumad Sep 2014 #259

kinda like why i do not close fist, and punch my little kid? lol. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #262

other than being nonvioent, always, that is. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #263

I never made that claim joeglow3 Sep 2014 #264

I think I mentioned that if your life depended on it... trumad Sep 2014 #292

It's not really surprising though, is it? Sheldon Cooper Sep 2014 #288

Little boys? oh my LittleBlue Sep 2014 #38

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post it... trumad Sep 2014 #56

Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #86

Thanks for reposting that.. trumad Sep 2014 #107

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Oh I see...you were watching out for me. trumad Sep 2014 #118

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Another saved post from 9 months ago?! Holy crap! R B Garr Sep 2014 #125

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and the "dumb-fucks" are always in your photobucket... R B Garr Sep 2014 #129

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...and you saved the posts for 9 months, R B Garr Sep 2014 #142

This message was self-deleted by its author pintobean Sep 2014 #145

So you have files on people with those spreadsheets R B Garr Sep 2014 #161

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Obsession has nothing to do with basic computer skills. R B Garr Sep 2014 #165

Life of a net nanny. Texasgal Sep 2014 #190

Net nanny is a very kind description. R B Garr Sep 2014 #195

Distuptive and obvious. Texasgal Sep 2014 #196

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Seems you are always involved. Texasgal Sep 2014 #203

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Thank you! Disruptive and obvious is exactly right. R B Garr Sep 2014 #201

i saw this the other day. i thought perfect. seabeyond Sep 2014 #217

you really are a piece of work pitobean. you have this shit you are feeding on two boards now. seabeyond Sep 2014 #211

It's pretty obvious what you were posting about, not sure why pintobean thinks he's scoring seaglass Sep 2014 #117

Oh but he was watching out for me. trumad Sep 2014 #119

Hmmm I knew I had seen that screenshot recently... seaglass Sep 2014 #166

oh my fuggin' god. really? and he is all innocent about it when shown the ridiculousness seabeyond Sep 2014 #218

That's ... sheshe2 Sep 2014 #227

Yep. JTFrog Sep 2014 #281

Well, the admins may have turned a blind eye to that crap, JTFrog Oct 2014 #327

Really? Rex Sep 2014 #213

True. And what's also revealing is how much the post he stored for 9 months R B Garr Sep 2014 #120

They do that at the cave? Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #151

pintobean's posts reveal all. R B Garr Sep 2014 #162

Is that what the self-delete campaign is all about? Rex Sep 2014 #219

Well damn, looks like he just self deleted everything. Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #221

Methinks someone was avoiding more hidden posts... DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #222

thanks for taking the time to clearly express what i feel about that. over and over and over. nt seabeyond Sep 2014 #216

"I'm a fighter by nature." Says all I need to know about you! LOL. Really?? nt Logical Sep 2014 #18

Ummm...huh? randome Sep 2014 #22

Yeah really. I can win fights both verbally & physically. giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #50

LOL, I love internet toughies! Sounds like a SNL skit. nt Logical Sep 2014 #81

Except I grew up on the streets of Miami, joined giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #207

Only you think they are all hippies apparently. nt Logical Sep 2014 #212

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Are u fuckin serious? giftedgirl77 Sep 2014 #305

Meh. There are women who can fight. RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #3

Well of course there are women who can kick ass.. trumad Sep 2014 #16

If some guy punched me, ... it isn't his ass that I would kick. meti57b Sep 2014 #31

I would if I had to, is what I'm saying. RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #51

Why this OP? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #54

Women can hurt and even kill men physically ripcord Sep 2014 #102

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again..your faux concern for teh women's is hilarious. trumad Sep 2014 #13

See my initial post -#6 DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #11

I wonder what's with the concern about the right to hit others? alp227 Sep 2014 #175

But you -can- think of a circumstance where a woman would hit you? HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #14

Far too broad of a statement fo rme to agree with. 99Forever Sep 2014 #21

You can punch all you want. .. trumad Sep 2014 #24

Is that what I said? 99Forever Sep 2014 #25

I think -- rogerashton Sep 2014 #28

A dangerous, trained fighter would catch you. randome Sep 2014 #29

Probably! rogerashton Sep 2014 #64

I like the way you think :-) n/t seaglass Sep 2014 #180

My Sensei taught us to not give chase. And it wouldn't be wise legally to pursue. freshwest Sep 2014 #232

I assume you hold the same standards if a man is hitting you? Schema Thing Sep 2014 #30

Oh so equity means punching a woman with a fist trumad Sep 2014 #32

well, yeah, if you would do the same with a man Schema Thing Sep 2014 #35

agreed Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #33

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Why did you self-delete, Islandurp? That was the funniest post in this thread! randome Sep 2014 #36

Had a list of scenarios in my head that went all the way up to a her setting off nuclear bomb... Islandurp Sep 2014 #37

I Would Call The Cops Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #40

"Excuse me a moment, can you stop beating me so I can call the police?" randome Sep 2014 #45

Touche! Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #87

I guess I would have to wrestle her to the ground Dirty Socialist Sep 2014 #90

Sounds sexy. randome Sep 2014 #123

I just don't see why this can't be framed as "much smaller and weaker person" instead of "woman" Threedifferentones Sep 2014 #41

I agree........... socialist_n_TN Sep 2014 #53

benevolent sexism is the first thing that popped into my head as well. nt m-lekktor Sep 2014 #92

Because otherwise it wouldn't be flame-bait, and would be devoid of strawman replies by the OP. arcane1 Sep 2014 #152

Sorry I can't agree that I would do the same.... socialist_n_TN Sep 2014 #42

I've practiced a martial art for over a decade deutsey Sep 2014 #282

Yep. Graduated response. I was taught that way from the very first class I took....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2014 #317

Shotokan, supplemented with some very basic Hapkido and Krav Maga techniques deutsey Oct 2014 #318

I don't think anyone disagrees with this. Dr. Strange Sep 2014 #43

Another DUzy! randome Sep 2014 #44

Lmao! Quackers Sep 2014 #49

That is funny trumad Sep 2014 #55

And that is expected of you, trumad. Go with the flow! randome Sep 2014 #62

Heh. n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #70

lol Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #99

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White knight? randome Sep 2014 #47

I was thinking more on the lines of... Puglover Sep 2014 #48

again. You are bent out of shape because I won't hit a woman. trumad Sep 2014 #63

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You're just bent. randome Sep 2014 #131

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I know right? Union Scribe Sep 2014 #84

a fauxminist Doctor_J Sep 2014 #89

That's great. Rex Sep 2014 #52

Personally, I wouldn't hit, nor would I associate with another who has a tendency towards physical notadmblnd Sep 2014 #57

"And when I mean hit her...I mean with a open hand or fist." Scootaloo Sep 2014 #58

+1 Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #223

Gotta have room for an Austin Powers style judo chop, baby. That is how a gentleman settles a TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #275

an observation trumad Sep 2014 #59

But would you, could you, in a box? randome Sep 2014 #61

Would you, could you, give a guy a break? moriah Sep 2014 #65

Oh, I'm not arguing against anyone's personal choices. randome Sep 2014 #68

I wish my father had beat the shit out of my mother. TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #299

Excuse me? 99Forever Sep 2014 #69

Come on now... trumad Sep 2014 #78

There is nothing common about sense. 99Forever Sep 2014 #95

I could not bring myself to take a swing at a woman, either. Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #60

I hear that ladies swear a lot in your presence, though. randome Sep 2014 #73

If my life is in danger, I'm hitting him, her, it (nt) bigwillq Sep 2014 #66

If a woman is hitting me, I will call the cops. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #67

What if it's a woman cop who is beating you? What then, smart guy? randome Sep 2014 #71

Well, that's a good point. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #72

Indeed. randome Sep 2014 #80

need a clarification please irisblue Sep 2014 #110

The way I read it Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #143

Yes. 50% is reciprocal, 35% is female on male. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #249

70 percent of nonreciprocal. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #242

If ANYONE was hitting me, I still wouldn't hit them. RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #74

I'm with you. n/t seaglass Sep 2014 #188

WWSD? randome Sep 2014 #75

Male or female; ya get what ya give. If that's too brutal for ya? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #77

Well that's fine by your standards. trumad Sep 2014 #79

If there is one standard for everyone, then everyone knows what to expect. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #85

These things are a matter of relative size and strength treestar Sep 2014 #83

has this happened to you often? Doctor_J Sep 2014 #88

I always wonder why people feel the need to make claims such as the OPs. Rex Sep 2014 #93

Position good. AngryAmish Sep 2014 #98

I like Rocky road Doctor_J Sep 2014 #147

Well That's A Thread Killer! ProfessorGAC Sep 2014 #279

I know. Founder's Favorite is the only one worth the time! randome Sep 2014 #285

Good on ya old boy libodem Sep 2014 #91

The gender of an attacker is irrelevant to me. Xithras Sep 2014 #94

Sounds benovolently sexist (nt) The Straight Story Sep 2014 #96

It only sounds that way to the MRA gang. trumad Sep 2014 #97

I have to disagree with you there. DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #204

well... domestic violence is big news lately. .. trumad Sep 2014 #208

As you wish. DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #215

well-said Vattel Sep 2014 #220

This is a very sexist and also contradictory post WestSideStory Sep 2014 #100

really? trumad Sep 2014 #103

Reasons WestSideStory Sep 2014 #105

Nice try trumad Sep 2014 #112

So many deletions and accusations. IDK why a simple OP is trashed. This pegs the: freshwest Sep 2014 #233

Oh I know why... trumad Sep 2014 #234

. Iggo Sep 2014 #101

Thank you. Unless she's got a weapon, she's not going to do a lot of damage Warpy Sep 2014 #106

I've made it perfectly clear in this thread trumad Sep 2014 #116

I sure as hell ain't going to do like some cops. LiberalFighter Sep 2014 #108

my late husband's first wife used to hit and scratch him. he DesertFlower Sep 2014 #111

I was raised to be a gentleman and paid for it in the last year of middle school. LiberalArkie Sep 2014 #114

So I can gladly kick your ass? RiffRandell Sep 2014 #122

Well I wouldn't let you... trumad Sep 2014 #124

That's probably wise. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #153

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Tempting, but I don't think admins will go for it. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #154

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Well that sucks. RiffRandell Sep 2014 #159

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I'm the same way steve2470 Sep 2014 #127

Paging DUer, Skittles. Ordering up an ass kicking for trumad... madinmaryland Sep 2014 #130

I really am of two minds about this. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #133

That's your call trumad Sep 2014 #134

You were in the armed forces I believe and I respect that. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #135

Again I'm fascinated by some here... trumad Sep 2014 #137

I don't know what I would do in that situation DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #139

sure trumad Sep 2014 #140

Years ago a woman at a gas station approached me and kept punching my face. ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #138

wow, I admire your self-restraint steve2470 Sep 2014 #167

I disagree Prophet 451 Sep 2014 #141

If ANYONE Lays Hands on Me Wolf Frankula Sep 2014 #144

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I would, under the right circumstances. Adrahil Sep 2014 #148

Would you do the same if a man was hitting you? Kaleva Sep 2014 #149

What if she had one of these on her face? Would you hit her then? randome Sep 2014 #150

It appears, for some, a supinistic masochistic experience is worth it. AngryAmish Sep 2014 #155

I just saw/read this post and I've learned one thing.: If you say it's wrong to hit a woman,... BlueJazz Sep 2014 #156

Suit yourself. I defend myself. closeupready Sep 2014 #157

What's the point of this OP? NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #163

It's one in a long line of "look at me" posts. Bonobo Sep 2014 #169

Yes, I've noticed that. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #171

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Oh lookie.. trumad Sep 2014 #173

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check your archive.. trumad Sep 2014 #177

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Missed a day on your spreadsheets? R B Garr Sep 2014 #178

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I was busy in real life when you made your post. You know...real life. R B Garr Sep 2014 #197

Say, what are the odds R B Garr Sep 2014 #176

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A learning experience. Rex Sep 2014 #182

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I see. So he toggles back and forth from DU R B Garr Sep 2014 #194

I see in my minds eye, someone hitting the alert button over and over again. Rex Sep 2014 #205

Wrong place nt Bonobo Sep 2014 #191

it's always cheap attention seeking with that guy. dionysus Sep 2014 #202

How am I better than thee? Let me count the ways... That's the point. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #189

I always wear shoes I can run in. I have a few sordid stories too. hunter Sep 2014 #168

What if "a woman" pulled a weapon on you? U4ikLefty Sep 2014 #170

Fascinating thread ismnotwasm Sep 2014 #183

I am short, very obese and just enough of a bitch. If I were to hit you - you would not hit back. KentuckyWoman Sep 2014 #185

I promise you I would not hit you back. trumad Sep 2014 #186

I wouldn't either. Not even a smaller man. Bonobo Sep 2014 #192

Frazier's style wasn't effective against tall power hitters. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #224

True, but against shorter women, it would be perfect. Bonobo Sep 2014 #229

Would you hit a man back? elias7 Sep 2014 #193

Well then grab yourself a cookie, there, son. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #198

I don't get gaspee Sep 2014 #200

Excuse me. DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #209

More deliberate obtuseness gaspee Sep 2014 #307

Are you having comprehension problems today? DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #308

I would like to say I'm stunned by the comments in this thread trumad Sep 2014 #210

I probably wouldn't either. Not for any noble reasons though. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #225

You have a good point there. NaturalHigh Sep 2014 #226

Yup. Look what happened to Alan Grayson on DU. closeupready Sep 2014 #248

For me it's about proportion. joshcryer Sep 2014 #230

I am kind of fearful for one of the smaller guys at work nolabels Sep 2014 #238

If I were a male and a female was hitting me and the female was a valerief Sep 2014 #231

Ah, but some chimpanzees can be reasoned with. randome Sep 2014 #250

It wouldn't appear so. valerief Sep 2014 #295

When fleeing violence is an option, I recommend it. Orsino Sep 2014 #240

Really shocked at so many of the replies. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #243

IMO Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #244

Same here... Though there are some circumstances where I would run the f... away Xyzse Sep 2014 #251

what about a guy with glasses? Enrique Sep 2014 #252

What about a rock star with glasses? randome Sep 2014 #253

fair game Enrique Sep 2014 #260

I've been in that situation JonLP24 Sep 2014 #255

I get that there are crazy ass females out there who can scare the shit out of you. trumad Sep 2014 #261

She isn't crazy as far as I would say JonLP24 Sep 2014 #265

What noble gender bias you have. TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #267

If a child hits me there is no way I am hitting him or her back, no way... DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #268

Define child joeglow3 Sep 2014 #290

Yes, of course. That's applying logic which is 100% consistent closeupready Sep 2014 #291

no. it means you understand the difference in size and strength. seabeyond Sep 2014 #293

Depends on the severity of the blows. dilby Sep 2014 #294

This has been a fun thread. LanternWaste Sep 2014 #296

Actually hitting teh womens is considered "equality" to some trumad Sep 2014 #300

The deletions crack me up! demmiblue Sep 2014 #316

This is smart. Mojo Electro Sep 2014 #301

Yeah us poor men. trumad Sep 2014 #302

What I taught my son ginnyinWI Sep 2014 #304

Question GummyBearz Sep 2014 #309

No I'd be dead. trumad Sep 2014 #312

Get less myopic GummyBearz Sep 2014 #315

How about, in any #%^*ty situation MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #311

So, did this thread devolve into looking for an excuse to hit a woman? Iggo Sep 2014 #314

Eight rationalizations to strike a female in this thread by my count. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #319

Never fails. Iggo Oct 2014 #321

Now it's nine. Iggo Oct 2014 #325

That happened after the sanctimonious proclamation mythology Oct 2014 #324

But it did happen. Iggo Oct 2014 #326

If someone is posting a "look at me" holier-than=thou thread.....I still won't read it. brooklynite Oct 2014 #320

May one safely presume you read this OP, then? LanternWaste Oct 2014 #323

I've hit a woman once in my life. skypilot Oct 2014 #322