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In reply to the discussion: Obama less popular on DU than war-making [View all]Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)That part has not been 'de-bunked' unless you believe that the U.N. is lying. The U.N. has stated that Iran has a nuclear program well underway.
It hasn't been 'de-bunked' as far as Iran goes, they themsleves state that they are pursuing a nuclear program.
It works only if there was no real hard evidence that Iran finances and arms Hezbollah, a real and actual terrorist organization that kills people. There is evidence in abundance of that fact, unless you do not believe the U.N. on that score, either.
It has little to do with Iran threatening this country directly and everything to do with Iran using the threat of nuclear blackmail to exert de-facto control over a very large fraction of the world's energy reserves, whether those reserves are in their own country or not.
If that happens, the entire world's economy would collapse, making our current difficulties look like nothing in comparison. That is economic warfare, and like it or not, no country will sit still and let that happen.
Even China has been expressing concerns over Iran's intentions, after all, they buy the bulk of Iran's oil, and they don't want to see the world economy slide into chaos.
It also has much to do with Iran being controlled by a fundamentalist religious government. Their type of lunatic god guys are no saner than our lunatic god guys, I see them as two sides of the same coin, brothers bound by intolerance.
I do not assume that Iran has peaceful intentions because they say they do.
I do not assume that Iran is a rational political state, a stable political state, or that their increasingly unpopular governing body will not do something really, really stupid in order to maintain power.
They have already shown that they will shoot down their own people who are out in the streets seeking political freedom from an oppressive religious regime and a greater say in how they are governed, without any hesitation.
And as far as Israel goes, no, I am not afraid of Israel using their nukes against us in any way.
As much as this might pain you to hear, they are an ally of this country and have never threatened to use their nuclear arms against us at any time, nor would they ever sell or give them to a terror group that fights proxie battles for them against other sovereign states.
Iran has threatened the very existence of the state of Israel, and has repeatedly called for its destruction.
Iran has in fact already declared that they have not only short range missile delivery systems for use in theater operations, but have recently confirmed the acquisition of both improved medium and long range multi-stage ballistic missile systems capable of warhead delivery within a 1000km radius.
Israel has never called for the extermination of all Persians from the face of the Earth.
They have stated that they will use any means at their disposal to defend themselves from such an attack.
I don't see the state of Israel funding any third-party proxies to launch random missile attacks from outside Iran's borders killing Iranians indiscrimanently.
You can throw PNAC around all you want, but it doesn't change the facts in evidence unless you'd much rather believe what Ahmedinajahd has to say, or the Mullahs as the truth and ignore all other evidence.
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