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Octafish

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43. Yes, like the time Nixon OK'd assigning a murderous Secret Service agent to protect Ted Kennedy.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 05:21 PM
Oct 2014

Except, that is what is never on Fox News: the Truth.

It's also is a good example of why I never denigrate people with labels, like "CT." It is a loaded term, designed to poison the person as a source of information and news. Here's the treasonous, murderous reality of the "Unindicted Co-Conspirator" of Watergate fame:

Nixon approved hiring a Secret Service man who said he'd 'kill on command' to guard Ted Kennedy. You can hear Nixon and Haldeman discuss it, about 40 minutes into the HBO documentary "Nixon by Nixon." While I had read the part of the transcript available years ago, and wrote about it on DU, almost no one I know has heard anything about it.



Ted Kennedy survived Richard Nixon's Plots

By Don Fulsom

In September 1972, Nixon’s continued political fear, personal loathing, and jealously of Kennedy led him to plant a spy in Kennedy’s Secret Service detail.

The mole Nixon selected for the Kennedy camp was already being groomed. He was a former agent from his Nixon’s vice presidential detail, Robert Newbrand—a man so loyal he once pledged he would do anything—even kill—for Nixon.

The President was most interested in learning about the Sen. Kennedy’s sex life. He wanted, more than anything, stated Haldeman in The Ends of Power, to “catch (Kennedy) in the sack with one of his babes.”

In a recently transcribed tape of a September 8, 1972 talk among the President and aides Bob Haldeman and Alexander Butterfield, Nixon asks whether Secret Service chief James Rowley would appoint Newbrand to head Kennedy’s detail:

Haldeman: He's to assign Newbrand.

President Nixon: Does he understand that he's to do that?

Butterfield: He's effectively already done it. And we have a full force assigned, 40 men.

Haldeman: I told them to put a big detail on him (unclear).

President Nixon: A big detail is correct. One that can cover him around the clock, every place he goes. (Laughter obscures mixed voices.)

President Nixon: Right. No, that's really true. He has got to have the same coverage that we give the others, because we're concerned about security and we will not assume the responsibility unless we're with him all the time.

Haldeman: And Amanda Burden (one of Kennedy’s alleged girlfriends) can't be trusted. (Unclear.) You never know what she might do. (Unclear.)

Haldeman then assures the President that Newbrand “will do anything that I tell him to … He really will. And he has come to me twice and absolutely, sincerely said, "With what you've done for me and what the President's done for me, I just want you to know, if you want someone killed, if you want anything else done, any way, any direction …"

President Nixon: The thing that I (unclear) is this: We just might get lucky and catch this son-of-a-bitch and ruin him for '76.

Haldeman: That's right.

President Nixon: He doesn't know what he's really getting into. We're going to cover him, and we are not going to take "no" for an answer. He can't say "no." The Kennedys are arrogant as hell with these Secret Service. He says, "Fine," and (Newbrand) should pick the detail, too.


Toward the end of this conversation, Nixon exclaims that Newbrand’s spying “(is) going to be fun,” and Haldeman responds: “Newbrand will just love it.”

Nixon also had a surveillance tip for Haldeman for his spy-to-be: “I want you to tell Newbrand if you will that (unclear) because he's a Catholic, sort of play it, he was for Jack Kennedy all the time. Play up to Kennedy, that "I'm a great admirer of Jack Kennedy." He's a member of the Holy Name Society. He wears a St. Christopher (unclear).” Haldeman laughs heartily at the President’s curious advice.

Despite the enthusiasm of Nixon and Haldeman, Newbrand apparently never produced anything of great value. When this particular round of Nixon’s spying on Kennedy was uncovered in 1997, The Washington Post quoted Butterfield as saying periodic reports on Kennedy's activities were delivered to Haldeman, but that Butterfield did not think any potentially damaging information was ever dug up.

SOURCE:

http://surftofind.com/tedkennedy



Why does that matter? The Warren Commission, and the nation's mass media, never heard about the CIA-Mafia plots to kill Castro until the Church Committee in 1975. You'd think that would be a matter of concern to all Americans, especially considering how then-vice president Nixon was head of the "White House Action Team" that contacted the Mafia for murder.

This is the sort of information citizens of a democracy shouldn't have to search the Internet to learn. It should be taught in school, or at the least, discussed in the nation's mass media. I certainly think it's unfair for people -- especially those who consider themselves Democrats or democrats -- to label those interested in such subjects "Conspiracy Theorists."

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Webb was really determined to kill himself PeoViejo Oct 2014 #1
But they found SamKnause Oct 2014 #2
Suicide By CIA Is Never Pretty... WillyT Oct 2014 #3
While I can believe the CIA did contribute to his decision to end his own life cstanleytech Oct 2014 #6
It was despicable what the NYT et al., did to Webb n/t deutsey Oct 2014 #8
Agree but tinfoil hat speculation over his suicide doesnt do anything to remedy that. nt cstanleytech Oct 2014 #29
No, it doesn't deutsey Oct 2014 #30
No but others here seem to have been and thats the kind of stuff I would expect more to come cstanleytech Oct 2014 #31
Yes, like the time Nixon OK'd assigning a murderous Secret Service agent to protect Ted Kennedy. Octafish Oct 2014 #43
Then you should ask the mods to change the DUs terms of service cstanleytech Oct 2014 #45
Why? DU works fine for me. Octafish Oct 2014 #53
There is a difference. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #54
So, rather than working to convince someone with facts we just kill their insane ramblings? Octafish Oct 2014 #55
"I take offense because the problem with equating insanity with conspiracy theoriest is censorship." cstanleytech Oct 2014 #58
Yeah. Are you an owner? Octafish Oct 2014 #59
No, skinner is and he made that rule. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #60
Was Webb shot twice in the head or not? nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #56
That would depend on the type of gun used and the amount of strength to pull the trigger cstanleytech Oct 2014 #57
Shouldn't there have been 2 suicide notes? Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #9
Good one !!! SamKnause Oct 2014 #19
The real reason that DC power elites needed to keep Kerry out of the WH blm Oct 2014 #4
Yes, behind the cover of the Iran/Contra investigation was a drug investigation handled by John jwirr Oct 2014 #7
Kerry continued with BCCI after Senate Dems refused him a place on IranContra committee blm Oct 2014 #14
Hmm you may be right about our boy in Arkansas as there was a major link in the system in Mena, jwirr Oct 2014 #17
Funny how all those pieces fit together all these years later. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #20
And we all remember a little part of the puzzle. But we still cannnot do anything about it. They are jwirr Oct 2014 #21
That's how Webb must have seen it when media helped put then keep Bush in the WH. blm Oct 2014 #27
Was that Steohens guy a close to the mylye2222 Oct 2014 #46
He probably had no choice, but, to look the other way when Bush ran his ops. blm Oct 2014 #24
My wife, who is approximately as paranoid as I am, Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #25
Not sure they are CIA. mylye2222 Oct 2014 #41
Wow. mylye2222 Oct 2014 #48
As the article notes, he did write a report that contained many of the charges karynnj Oct 2014 #23
just did a google and found this Duppers Oct 2014 #32
And Webb ended "taking his own life" in 2004. mylye2222 Oct 2014 #34
Gary Webb Octafish Oct 2014 #5
You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #12
Gary Webb dead of self inflicted gunshot woundS! Octafish Oct 2014 #49
Hahahahaha! Plain IMPOSSIBLE! mylye2222 Oct 2014 #50
Agree, but DUers found enough evidence to convince me that two shots were possible. Octafish Oct 2014 #52
Yeah of course this will be ignored Rex Oct 2014 #47
They seem to flock to an interesting story. Octafish Oct 2014 #51
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This tells you all you need to know about . . FairWinds Oct 2014 #13
Hmmm.. Why this sounds like a "conspiracy". Fix The Stupid Oct 2014 #15
I would sure like to know who the CIA Inspector General edited out of this: ieoeja Oct 2014 #16
Read Parry's lengthy reports on Rev Moon and his longtime alliance with Poppy Bush. blm Oct 2014 #18
I think you nailed it. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #26
Thank you for posting this. So disgusting. So infuriating. deurbano Oct 2014 #22
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Maybe OT, but did you knew that mylye2222 Oct 2014 #37
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