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Octafish

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6. War Inc is friend to Empire, not Democracy
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 08:58 AM
Oct 2014

Heads-up on this fellow, Tyler Cowen:



The Pitfalls of Peace

The Lack of Major Wars May Be Hurting Economic Growth

Tyler Cowen
The New York Times, JUNE 13, 2014

The continuing slowness of economic growth in high-income economies has prompted soul-searching among economists. They have looked to weak demand, rising inequality, Chinese competition, over-regulation, inadequate infrastructure and an exhaustion of new technological ideas as possible culprits.

An additional explanation of slow growth is now receiving attention, however. It is the persistence and expectation of peace.

The world just hasn’t had that much warfare lately, at least not by historical standards. Some of the recent headlines about Iraq or South Sudan make our world sound like a very bloody place, but today’s casualties pale in light of the tens of millions of people killed in the two world wars in the first half of the 20th century. Even the Vietnam War had many more deaths than any recent war involving an affluent country.

Counterintuitive though it may sound, the greater peacefulness of the world may make the attainment of higher rates of economic growth less urgent and thus less likely. This view does not claim that fighting wars improves economies, as of course the actual conflict brings death and destruction. The claim is also distinct from the Keynesian argument that preparing for war lifts government spending and puts people to work. Rather, the very possibility of war focuses the attention of governments on getting some basic decisions right — whether investing in science or simply liberalizing the economy. Such focus ends up improving a nation’s longer-run prospects.

It may seem repugnant to find a positive side to war in this regard, but a look at American history suggests we cannot dismiss the idea so easily. Fundamental innovations such as nuclear power, the computer and the modern aircraft were all pushed along by an American government eager to defeat the Axis powers or, later, to win the Cold War. The Internet was initially designed to help this country withstand a nuclear exchange, and Silicon Valley had its origins with military contracting, not today’s entrepreneurial social media start-ups. The Soviet launch of the Sputnik satellite spurred American interest in science and technology, to the benefit of later economic growth.

War brings an urgency that governments otherwise fail to summon. For instance, the Manhattan Project took six years to produce a working atomic bomb, starting from virtually nothing, and at its peak consumed 0.4 percent of American economic output. It is hard to imagine a comparably speedy and decisive achievement these days.

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Living in a largely peaceful world with 2 percent G.D.P. growth has some big advantages that you don’t get with 4 percent growth and many more war deaths. Economic stasis may not feel very impressive, but it’s something our ancestors never quite managed to pull off. The real questions are whether we can do any better, and whether the recent prevalence of peace is a mere temporary bubble just waiting to be burst.

Tyler Cowen is a professor of economics at George Mason University.

SOURCE: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/upshot/the-lack-of-major-wars-may-be-hurting-economic-growth.html?_r=0



The guy seems to specialize in Big Ticket themes:



Tired Of Inequality? One Economist Says It'll Only Get Worse

by NPR STAFF
September 12, 2013 3:05 AM

Economist Tyler Cowen has some advice for what to do about America's income inequality: Get used to it. In his latest book, Average Is Over, Cowen lays out his prediction for where the U.S. economy is heading, like it or not:

"I think we'll see a thinning out of the middle class," he tells NPR's Steve Inskeep. "We'll see a lot of individuals rising up to much greater wealth. And we'll also see more individuals clustering in a kind of lower-middle class existence."

It's a radical change from the America of 40 or 50 years ago. Cowen believes the wealthy will become more numerous, and even more powerful. The elderly will hold on to their benefits ... the young, not so much. Millions of people who might have expected a middle class existence may have to aspire to something else.

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Some people, he predicts, may just have to find a new definition of happiness that costs less money. Cowen says this widening is the result of a shifting economy. Computers will play a larger role and people who can work with computers can make a lot. He also predicts that everyone will be ruthlessly graded — every slice of their lives, monitored, tracked and recorded.

CONTINUED with link to the audio...

http://www.npr.org/2013/09/12/221425582/tired-of-inequality-one-economist-says-itll-only-get-worse



Dr. Cowen echoes the War Party themes of "Commercial interests are very powerful interests" and "Money trumps peace." Apart from that three year interval in the early 1960s your father termed as exceptions to the normal order, it's been the official policy for most of the last century. Thank you, H20 Man! With wisdom, we can chart a different course.

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Proof that Power, Money and Crushing Dissent Are NSA’s Real Motives for Spying Octafish Oct 2014 #3
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I saw him on Up malaise Oct 2014 #23
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2014 #2
War Inc is friend to Empire, not Democracy Octafish Oct 2014 #6
T Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower all tried to rid the country of the post-war war machine librechik Oct 2014 #25
I believe unknowingly, defacto7 Oct 2014 #66
yes, exactly!--once they discovered how much money and power it gave them librechik Oct 2014 #70
+1 nashville_brook Oct 2014 #21
Everyone should know just how much the government lied to defend the NSA Octafish Oct 2014 #73
with bushieboy and darth heaven05 Oct 2014 #4
Carlyle Group owns Booz Allen Hamilton, NSA's go-to contractor. Octafish Oct 2014 #9
thank you heaven05 Oct 2014 #12
And don't forget how former Booz Allen CEO is now the lying head of the NSA. Conflict of interest sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #58
Well said, sabrina 1! Octafish Oct 2014 #74
Forgot to mention: Cheney spearheaded the privatization of Pentagon profits for BFEE Octafish Oct 2014 #76
It is truly sickening. It is obvious to anyone now that the wars they drag this country into sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #82
Did not know that. Thanks. Wella Oct 2014 #91
It always comes back to the military industrial complex that we were warned of. zeemike Oct 2014 #5
It seems they've got a special focus on enemies domestic. Octafish Oct 2014 #10
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We've got domestic enemies alright... ReRe Oct 2014 #17
i just listened to an interview with Dave Lindorff nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #30
Department of Homeland Security Brands ThisCantBeHappening! a ‘Threat’ Octafish Oct 2014 #36
They hate the new Iphone. We aren't supposed to have anything that can keep them from searching us. L0oniX Oct 2014 #39
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Huge K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #7
Remember when Blackwater threatened to kill State Department inspector in Iraq? RISEN told us... Octafish Oct 2014 #15
Yep... I Do... WillyT Oct 2014 #19
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Jeff Gerth, meet Judith Miller Octafish Oct 2014 #11
While I can't H2O Man Oct 2014 #43
I don't think they feel they need to fake evidence any more. zeemike Oct 2014 #47
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Leaked documents expose secret contracts between NSA and tech companies Octafish Oct 2014 #48
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Sen. Prescott Bush, Sr. talked about Iraq's oil reserves back in 1959... Octafish Oct 2014 #60
The prolongation of the mercenary class/top secret everything is deeply troubling to me. democrank Oct 2014 #20
Vote all you want. The secret government won’t change. (Boston Globe) Octafish Oct 2014 #24
Expect the usual attacks because this info discourages voting. L0oniX Oct 2014 #37
this is actually the point where we need POTUS to fulfill the promise of transparency nashville_brook Oct 2014 #40
I think you missed the point here. It appears that Pres Obama doesn't have the power rhett o rick Oct 2014 #51
Eggzaklee! Scuba Oct 2014 #56
The first mistake the citizens make... SHRED Oct 2014 #22
True and before a single shot is fired, somebody's got to pay. Just don't ask for an accounting... Octafish Oct 2014 #87
It's been "permanent" for a long while already... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #26
Nov. 22, 1963 Octafish Oct 2014 #88
The fact that they can keep files locked for 50 years says a lot about how little we are allowed to liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #27
Answers sought on CIA role in ‘78 JFK probe Octafish Oct 2014 #89
And guess what? Obama has little or no control over them... nt kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #28
POTUS has no real power? Well I figured that anyway. L0oniX Oct 2014 #34
Which would explain why Gov. Don Siegelman's in prison and George W Bush is not. Octafish Oct 2014 #50
k/r you rock Octafish nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #29
K&R. nt OnyxCollie Oct 2014 #31
In general, the Founding Fathers did not even want us to have a standing army, JDPriestly Oct 2014 #32
Where Democracy, freedom, privacy goes to die ...USA L0oniX Oct 2014 #33
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Oct 2014 #35
Perpetual war is good for the economy. raouldukelives Oct 2014 #38
There's a certain voice conspicuously missing from this thread hootinholler Oct 2014 #41
"a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design" johnnyreb Oct 2014 #42
Blackwater & Co. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #44
Back to the top with this incredibly important story. BIG K&R nt riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #45
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Thanks once again. You are dominating my bookmarks. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #52
wholehearted kick. thx Octafish nt navarth Oct 2014 #54
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Kick. Thanks Octafish. Scuba Oct 2014 #57
With US-led air strikes on ISIS intensifying, it’s a good time to be an arms giant Octafish Oct 2014 #77
It’s always good time to be an arms giant. Scuba Oct 2014 #80
A little late maybe, but another K&R dgauss Oct 2014 #59
''Money trumps peace.'' -- appointed pretzeldent George Walker Bush, Feb. 14, 2007 Octafish Oct 2014 #69
War is here to stay. Too much PROFIT to be had. And, yeah, we'll all be starving penniless in the blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #61
''War is a Racket.'' Octafish Oct 2014 #68
This story should be front page stuff across the country. JEB Oct 2014 #62
+1 woo me with science Oct 2014 #63
Well, look what Risen has been facing. woo me with science Oct 2014 #64
Yet the Democratic Party resists any attempt to bring these toxic agencies under control. eom whereisjustice Oct 2014 #65
The Church Committee - the last time they tried. Octafish Oct 2014 #67
What's worse... CanSocDem Oct 2014 #71
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K&R .. thanks Octafish wavesofeuphoria Oct 2014 #78
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"But some have seen this national security crisis as a financial opportunity, Risen said." suffragette Oct 2014 #84
It is clear traitors use the state to make war and enrich themselves. Octafish Oct 2014 #85
Sad, but oh so true. suffragette Oct 2014 #90
but doing that would destroy the facade that it's us vs. them! Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #86
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