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In reply to the discussion: I work with teens Michael Brown's age and the number one rule is [View all]pipoman
(16,038 posts)259. Well that would be assuming you were just walking minding your own business
What if instead you had just robbed a store? (I'm thinking you haven't robbed anyone) A reasonable person who had just robbed a store and was confronted by a police officer would expect to be arrested... Issued a lawful order by the police officer, and know they are compounding their crime if they resist.
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You are referring to Wilson, are you not? Because, you know, he actually KILLED SOMEONE.
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#5
the point is that the cop is not or should not be entitled to the use of deadly force as his first
samsingh
Nov 2014
#96
Check your post. I am pretty sure it says the opposite of what you mean for it to say. nt
tblue37
Nov 2014
#100
And backing up because he felt insulted and then opening his car door so as to hit Brown and brush
JDPriestly
Nov 2014
#191
Michael Brown was, at the time seen by Darren Wilson, SIMPLY WALKING. Do YOU want to be told to get
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#105
and according to the chief of police or the mayor, wilson did not know about the shopkeeper incident
samsingh
Nov 2014
#108
The point of the OP is that with a kid Brown's age, it is the responsibility of the adult, here
JDPriestly
Nov 2014
#192
Wilson SAID Brown attacked him. Dorian Johnson said that the only reason that Brown was so close to
rury
Nov 2014
#224
Actually, how you repond to the police depends a lot on your cultural and racial background.
JDPriestly
Nov 2014
#229
True, but Wilson had choices other than to confront Brown all by himself. He should have waited
JDPriestly
Nov 2014
#269
Wilson neederd to be cross-examined. But that is why a trial was needed and not just a
JDPriestly
Nov 2014
#194
Yeap, the FPD was full of fuckin lies... I don't beleive there's still a small faction on this board
uponit7771
Nov 2014
#240
+1, 18 of 20 witness's said Brown had his hands up when he was murdered... the 2 differers
uponit7771
Nov 2014
#239
I missed that trial. Unless you think a store tape means a trial isn't necessary to
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#107
The point is that Brown although physically large was a kid with poor judgment.
JDPriestly
Nov 2014
#189
Brown was never charged or convicted for that crime, or for the theft of the cigars. Innocent until
Erose999
Dec 2014
#285
Wilson -- out to prove his manhood? Was that a motivation for killing rather than waiting for
JDPriestly
Nov 2014
#195
That's what I think - although my husband, who is an ex-NYC cop, says Wilson is a
adigal
Nov 2014
#120
Boy? Because he is black? He was a year older, 6" taller and a hundred pounds heavier than I
jtuck004
Nov 2014
#140
Hind sight....at the moment Wilson only had a description of a robbery suspect
pipoman
Nov 2014
#265
1) It has not been definitively established that Brown 'robbed the store.' 2) What
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2014
#206
nah, none of that shit matters.. brown was... well.. brown and big and the cop with a gun
uponit7771
Nov 2014
#242
I've watched the video numerous times. I've also read Dorian Johnson's
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2014
#261
Now you are directly mis-representing the record. It is not established that
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2014
#267
True, but they also have protection from a union and fellow officers to cover for them.
Rex
Nov 2014
#118
Exactly. So why didn't the grown-ass ANGRY COP realize this? (See how that works?)
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#8
I think back and I was already in the Navy. Mature enough not to fight with a cop like most people
jtuck004
Nov 2014
#138
And part is to let well enough alone, as in: Two young Black guys walking in the street. Was it a
WinkyDink
Nov 2014
#11
A person who has just committed a crime is more likely to avoid confrontations with police
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2014
#76
It was an issue in the sense that it ( the video) established his apparent frame of mind....
Smarmie Doofus
Nov 2014
#198
My recollection is Wilson said "what the fuck are you doing in the street ?" or....
steve2470
Nov 2014
#45
I was stopped as a teen too... I was scared shitless because I'm black and they beat blacks in MO
uponit7771
Nov 2014
#236
Many cops have a strong desire to have others show deference to their authority.
Vattel
Nov 2014
#51
A fair-minded reading of Johnson's testimony suggests that he himself thought
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2014
#124
Do you make a practice of erecting straw men? Saying that Johnson's testimony
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2014
#203
I agree that it would not be strange at all for a police officer to obnoxiously bark out orders
Vattel
Nov 2014
#132
What's not conflicting is 18 of the 20 eye witness's say Brown had his hands up...
uponit7771
Nov 2014
#247
adigal..I wish I could rec your post more than once. You are absolutely correct
truth2power
Nov 2014
#77
I have always found that treating them with respect and talking to them like they were adults
Cleita
Nov 2014
#93
Same here, years with at-risk youth teaches one a LOT about themselves and humanity.
NYC_SKP
Nov 2014
#109
To the its OK to shoot the 18-yr old because he is a "man" crowd, one question...
Moostache
Nov 2014
#111
Yes but cops don't work that way. Their entire job is to force a person into submission.
Rex
Nov 2014
#116
+1 But I am also heartened to see so many that do understand the injustice
Live and Learn
Nov 2014
#152
I see several comments about how police are trained and subsequently become bullies.
brer cat
Nov 2014
#139
One only need watch the cop or prison shows (if one can stomach it) to see that
Live and Learn
Nov 2014
#153
Wilson was SUPPOSEDLY an adult, who SHOULD HAVE BEEN trained to defuse a situation!
LongTomH
Nov 2014
#143
It is a scientific fact and is freely available with a minimal google search.
Live and Learn
Nov 2014
#163
Exactly, Wilson was supposed to be (and hired & paid to be) the proverbial "adult in the room"
99th_Monkey
Nov 2014
#164
No ... he kind of didn't... they changed the story after the police chief said he didn't
uponit7771
Nov 2014
#238
You skipped the part were Wilson didn't know of the robberty and back up his car into two teens
uponit7771
Nov 2014
#237
You care about helping teens. Not all cops do. Therein lies the difference.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2014
#260