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SATIRical

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71. True, that is unscientific

Fri Apr 20, 2012, 05:50 PM

Apr 2012

I'll look to see if they have any studies across the population instead of just the top competitors.

The most difficult problem will be finding one that tries to normalize for weight (and being overweight). Clearly Martin was at a good BMI, which lends itself to being a fast runner, but certainly doesn't guarantee it.

I think finding a study that compared running speed by BMI by race and age is too specific but I'll look.

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If Zimmerman was injured then it was self-defense by Trayvon Martin [View all] LynneSin Apr 2012 OP

absolutely Whisp Apr 2012 #1

Exactly! cottage10 Apr 2012 #2

This just shows how thoroughly twisted the coverage on this has been. annabanana Apr 2012 #3

"I believe that following someone is NOT standing your ground. It is invading theirs." ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #4

Legally correct. TheWraith Apr 2012 #30

I'm not so sure... belcffub Apr 2012 #37

You're right. But New York is slightly unusual in that regard. TheWraith Apr 2012 #39

thanks for the clarification belcffub Apr 2012 #44

If Zimmerman grabbed him, tried to detain him, threatened him, or brandished a gun, then hell yes.nt X_Digger Apr 2012 #5

If Zimmy simply cornered him, and refused to say why, then hell yes. WingDinger Apr 2012 #13

If by cornered, you mean detained, yes. Otherwise? No. n/t X_Digger Apr 2012 #16

Basic Math: Vehicle + Gun = Winner; Pedestrian + Bare Hands = Loser freshwest Apr 2012 #6

That's right, I forgot about that valuable lesson we had back during katrina.... LynneSin Apr 2012 #7

What a difference a little melanin makes in news reports, huh? freshwest Apr 2012 #10

Unfortunately, starting a fight will more likely support manslaughter, not homicde. randome Apr 2012 #8

From what we know so far, this is my take on it, too. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #9

Further, had Zimmy saidstuff it, instead of OK, the dispatcher would certainly have said, cease and WingDinger Apr 2012 #14

HOw do we know Trayvon started it? LynneSin Apr 2012 #15

We don't. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #17

Are you sure about that? hfojvt Apr 2012 #25

"Not to sterotype" geardaddy Apr 2012 #29

well it is not exactly a negative sterotype, is it? hfojvt Apr 2012 #40

Is that you Ron Paul? geardaddy Apr 2012 #47

Naaah, it's Howard Cosell. nt MADem Apr 2012 #49

ask jimmy the greek frylock Apr 2012 #58

Stereotypes are sometimes stereotypes because they are true SATIRical Apr 2012 #52

Yep, and all Irish are drunks. geardaddy Apr 2012 #54

Reading is fundamental SATIRical Apr 2012 #56

Yep, I notice the trend. geardaddy Apr 2012 #63

Yep, so you can make a generalization SATIRical Apr 2012 #66

I doubt most North Americans are faster than people of any other nation geardaddy Apr 2012 #67

Let me know when you get some data SATIRical Apr 2012 #69

Nice try. geardaddy Apr 2012 #70

True, that is unscientific SATIRical Apr 2012 #71

Blech. This is reminding me of the 'why did she STAY'?? bullshit abused wives polly7 Apr 2012 #73

Sure? No, definitely not. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #32

This is an offensive and racist post. If you "don't mean to stereotype," why did you do it? MADem Apr 2012 #48

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #55

Republicans politicians are assholes. MADem Apr 2012 #61

Nope, but the statistics show SATIRical Apr 2012 #65

You're showing me photos of men, who are professional athletes, and trying to tell me that because MADem Apr 2012 #76

What does a story about world class sprinters JonLP24 Apr 2012 #62

Sorry, but pretty much all studies SATIRical Apr 2012 #68

Here is someone that disagrees with Mr. Entine JonLP24 Apr 2012 #72

Thank you, Jon. There alot of thinly veiled racist crap being slung through the air here and Ecumenist Apr 2012 #92

If you have two overlapping bell curves, the means aren't all that different eridani Apr 2012 #91

I guess you are right hfojvt Apr 2012 #86

I don't find your schtick even slightly amusing. MADem Apr 2012 #87

WTF??!! Not to stereotype but" IF ANYTHING IS TRUE ABOUT YOUNG BLACK MALES, IT IS Ecumenist Apr 2012 #82

Tell me about it. MADem Apr 2012 #84

This joker seems to hink that he's being witty and cute AND he's not. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #95

Baiting, goading and dogwhistling. It's uncivil behavior is what it is. MADem Apr 2012 #98

saying one thing is not the same as saying all things hfojvt Apr 2012 #85

Really? first of all, I don't subscribe to any broad brush typing of anyone because PEOPLE ARE Ecumenist Apr 2012 #93

A steroetype is a stereotype whether you used one or a million. DAMN. eom Ecumenist Apr 2012 #96

Is that stand your ground? ThomThom Apr 2012 #24

Absolutely, ThomThom! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #94

the only person who says Trayvon initiated physical contact is zimmerman noiretextatique Apr 2012 #35

Zimmerman had no right confronting somebody who was breaking no laws. It wasn't his job WI_DEM Apr 2012 #11

+1 deutsey Apr 2012 #12

"No right" Spoonman Apr 2012 #28

at what point did martin walk around looking into zimmerman's car? frylock Apr 2012 #53

Never HangOnKids Apr 2012 #64

it's just an absolute fail as an analogy frylock Apr 2012 #74

Sending a drowning man an anchor. HangOnKids Apr 2012 #75

I don't believe you can make a case for using physical force against someone for following... slackmaster Apr 2012 #18

You can if that person is threatening you and /oir you see the gun holstered in his Ecumenist Apr 2012 #20

Threatening, yes. Holstered gun, no way. slackmaster Apr 2012 #21

If they're stalking you, following you, being clearly hostile,putting their hands on you,( as the Ecumenist Apr 2012 #77

What you've described here is a far cry from someone simply having a holstered firearm slackmaster Apr 2012 #78

Of course, I don't realise what <<I>> just said..REALLY??!! What else do you think I was Ecumenist Apr 2012 #79

Thanks. I wasn't sure how to parse "and /oir" slackmaster Apr 2012 #81

You're a nut! LOL!! Ecumenist Apr 2012 #83

I'd say that depends on HOW they approach you. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #33

Exactly, Lizzie. If someone approached me in an overtly hostile fashion in the way he most likely Ecumenist Apr 2012 #80

Yes, that's right Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #42

Yes MoonRiver Apr 2012 #19

I have confidence that the time Travyon's call with his girlfriend ended, to his demise, will be an Ninga Apr 2012 #22

you are asserting something you do not know hfojvt Apr 2012 #23

zimmerman had no right to bother Martin...period noiretextatique Apr 2012 #36

What is being bothered? hfojvt Apr 2012 #43

and they have the right to tell you to fuck off and mind your own business noiretextatique Apr 2012 #45

+1,000 nt MADem Apr 2012 #51

telling me those things hfojvt Apr 2012 #88

And its perfectly normal to assume that an armed person following you at night Boabab Apr 2012 #97

so you believe the lying murderer...not a surprise noiretextatique Apr 2012 #100

sounds like a real good way to get your ass kicked.. frylock Apr 2012 #59

you act like I have never done that in the past hfojvt Apr 2012 #89

So are you, with your assertion that Trayvon was a fast runner. But it's "OK" when you do it, MADem Apr 2012 #50

well, it is okay because it is not really key to my argument hfojvt Apr 2012 #90

If it wasn't 'key to your argument' then why did you dog-whistle the supposition? MADem Apr 2012 #99

not clever at all noiretextatique Apr 2012 #101

Yes--it's troubling, isn't it? MADem Apr 2012 #104

someone follows you in a vehicle and then pursues you on foot.. frylock Apr 2012 #57

he's black...he should be used to it noiretextatique Apr 2012 #102

Been saying this all along. RedSpartan Apr 2012 #26

And he is not here to say what happened treestar Apr 2012 #27

The only one with the right to a SYG defense that night was Trayvon. nt obxhead Apr 2012 #31

and Zimmerman's call to 911 PROVES that statement to be correct LynneSin Apr 2012 #41

it most certainly does noiretextatique Apr 2012 #46

I agree guitar man Apr 2012 #34

Correct, if the accounts are true, and I think they are. MineralMan Apr 2012 #38

That applies if gun was pulled before Zimmerman was beaten. Zax2me Apr 2012 #60

unfortunately, the other person who knows what happens is dead noiretextatique Apr 2012 #103