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951-Riverside

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12. The system itself is the problem. Officers ramos and cicinelli got a real jury trial...

Reply to closeupready (Original post)

Thu Dec 4, 2014, 12:36 AM

Dec 2014

and got off scott-free even though they were caught on tape beating and strangling Kelly Thomas to death just like Deputy Ivory John Webb Jr was found not guilty by a real jury after he shot airman Elio Carrion 3 times in the back after telling him to get up even though he was prone on the ground.

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Is the grand jury system itself the problem? [View all] closeupready Dec 2014 OP

Blame the prosecutor(s) for the failure(s). n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #1

But they almost ALWAYS get a GJ indictment when closeupready Dec 2014 #2

It is the prosecutors. sir pball Dec 2014 #7

^^^ THIS! herding cats Dec 2014 #11

It absolutely is the prosecutors. joshcryer Dec 2014 #9

Cross examination is impossible. Igel Dec 2014 #15

Can't they at least make note of the contradictions? joshcryer Dec 2014 #16

Fifth Amendment morningfog Dec 2014 #3

That only applies to Federal charges, states get their own say sir pball Dec 2014 #4

All true. morningfog Dec 2014 #5

Which I don't find an inherent problem sir pball Dec 2014 #8

Corrupt prosecutors and ignorant peers. nt Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #6

In the Brown case the prosecutors should be sent to jail. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #10

The system itself is the problem. Officers ramos and cicinelli got a real jury trial... 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #12

The USA is the only common law country that still uses grand juries. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2014 #13

Prosecutors move up to District Attorney, Mayor, and even state/fed office. displacedtexan Dec 2014 #14

Just a clever, nifty , little tool that police departments can use SoCalDem Dec 2014 #17

The problem is that the prosecutors responsible for prosecuting police crimes NuclearDem Dec 2014 #18