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SheilaT

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60. Possibly.

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 02:49 AM

Dec 2014

I do try to keep in mind that my preferences in this area may well be totally unlike those of the average voter.

Another totally random anecdote is this: In 1988, a friend who was Republican -- and this is before the extreme polarization we have now -- was genuinely offended at the selection of Dan Quayle as the Republican VP candidate. She was insulted that women (like her) should be more likely to vote for George HW Bush because of Dan Quayle.

I feel very much the same way. If I like my party's nominee in the first place, the VP either doesn't matter (if that choice is either neutral or favorable for me) or still won't make me stay home or vote for the other guy -- if the VP nominee is someone I don't like.

I need to be honest here and address the elephant in the room: Hillary Clinton. I am one who is not at all crazy about her, to the point that I don't think she is a remotely good candidate as presidential nominee. If (the gods forbid) she does become our nominee, I'll be faced with a very tough choice: do I vote for her because she's my party's nominee? Or do I not, because I am so opposed to her and all she represents? And what if she selects a VP I really like, such as Elizabeth Warren?

I can't now answer those questions, but I will tell you I'll be very, very conflicted if that happens.

Oh, and I absolutely agree, that Obama was going to win in 2008, no matter what.

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Just for fun: what VP would Warren need to have to run? [View all] CTyankee Dec 2014 OP

Webb, on paper BeyondGeography Dec 2014 #1

I don't know much about him, but I'll take your point... CTyankee Dec 2014 #2

I really don't think Obama's choice meant a hill of beans. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #3

I think at the time, it was a major consideration. After all, Biden couldn't pull in lots of votes CTyankee Dec 2014 #5

Bidens is non-offensive. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #7

well, Biden had "world experience" that enhanced Obama's campaign. CTyankee Dec 2014 #10

We have another Rock star.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #52

Truly. And this one might actually have staying power. n/t Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #54

Hillary Clinton is glad to have your support! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #55

Great thing about being a dem right now is we have a number of rock stars. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #62

Pitbull would be a good choice snooper2 Dec 2014 #4

I don't think people weigh foreign policy experience very heavily Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #6

Dennis Kucinich Octafish Dec 2014 #8

Hillary R. Clinton ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #9

that was my immediate first choice but I see your point... CTyankee Dec 2014 #11

Why not...this is the year of the woman coming right up....its TIME VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #53

Her opposite (except ideologically) Proud Public Servant Dec 2014 #12

would he want to do that? CTyankee Dec 2014 #13

I can't imagine he would, but Proud Public Servant Dec 2014 #15

that's interesting. He's kinda old, tho. I know, I know, I'm old, too... CTyankee Dec 2014 #16

I want him as President! But Proud Public Servant Dec 2014 #17

Well, I thought about that re Brown. He does have the geographical diversity (altho we sure had CTyankee Dec 2014 #21

Leave Jerry in Cali Alittleliberal Dec 2014 #58

Wendy Davis? berni_mccoy Dec 2014 #14

She'd need to demonstrate a real capacity for executive leadership KittyWampus Dec 2014 #18

VP isn't chosen until the nomination is won MiniMe Dec 2014 #19

In Biden's case, IMO, he was chosen both for his foreign policy experience and for the fact that CTyankee Dec 2014 #20

Bingo. SheilaT Dec 2014 #57

I agree, but I do think McCain's VP choice hurt him MiniMe Dec 2014 #59

Possibly. SheilaT Dec 2014 #60

That used to be a joke in 1988 MiniMe Dec 2014 #61

Sanders-Warren, Warren-Dean, Warren-Brown, Warren-Webb appalachiablue Dec 2014 #22

Not sure Dean would be a good pick. He was governor of VT, another New England state. CTyankee Dec 2014 #23

All have their qualities & drawbacks. Dean's very secure, smart, experienced and he's been in the appalachiablue Dec 2014 #30

Joe Biden. morningfog Dec 2014 #24

that ship will have sailed by 2016. I don't think he'd do it but who knows? CTyankee Dec 2014 #25

Can he be VP again legally? Reter Dec 2014 #49

Yes. The 22nd Amendment limits someone being elected President to two terms, but says nothing of VP. morningfog Dec 2014 #51

Gov. Brian Schweitzer earthside Dec 2014 #26

Screw Schweitzer 2naSalit Dec 2014 #29

Again, I am wondering if we don't need someone with a bit more foreign policy experience. CTyankee Dec 2014 #33

As with Clinton, Warren would likely nominate an Hispanic politician to be her running mate. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #27

West Coast. Gregoire or maybe Schweitzer? n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #28

The coasts seem to respect each other, Northeast Liberal is a label used by many southern Dems HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #44

This is so boring. WhiteTara Dec 2014 #31

sorry, it's a boring afternoon in CT, gray, cold...so I thought to do something a bit fun... CTyankee Dec 2014 #32

that sounds far more interesting! WhiteTara Dec 2014 #37

well, it is on Monet's snowscape "The Magpie." If you like Monet, you'll like this... CTyankee Dec 2014 #38

I adore Monet and don't know this piece of work WhiteTara Dec 2014 #40

I didn't either until a friend pointed it out. It is one of his many snowscapes. CTyankee Dec 2014 #41

I've got it--Joe Lieberman! First Speaker Dec 2014 #34

The thought of him makes me sick. We here in CT threw him out of our state Dem party! CTyankee Dec 2014 #35

Hey--I'm a life-long southern CT guy...I know what you mean... First Speaker Dec 2014 #47

Julian Castro from TX - TBF Dec 2014 #36

I like him but he's a bit young, don't you think? CTyankee Dec 2014 #39

TR was 42 upon assuming the office of president - TBF Dec 2014 #48

John McCain. What an unbeatable "fusion ticket" that would be. Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #42

A southern male conservative to balance the ticket. Stephen Colbert? LOL nt Electric Monk Dec 2014 #43

The repub party has become such a joke, it might as well be Colbert... CTyankee Dec 2014 #45

I suggest Cynthia McKinney. A good life insurance policy is important if you are going on a bear TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #46

Webb is the "obvious" choice, probably also for Clinton (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #50

Brown Vattel Dec 2014 #56