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251. Not sure how you can have missed this, but I'll try again

Wed Dec 17, 2014, 10:43 PM

Dec 2014

Randi, in his interview with Dog World magazine, lied about having replicated Sheldrake's research. His whole story began to fall apart and he made up another embarrassing lie about having lost all his data in a hurricane. Eventually he admitted lying.

If you actually read the article in the OP, you'll find there are a number of examples of Randi being caught lying. This man has zero integrity. Sorry, not sorry if that gives you a sad.

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James Randi: debunking the king of the debunkers [View all] Octafish Dec 2014 OP

Lying is extremely profitable ... JEFF9K Dec 2014 #1

Absolutely. Here's Why the Big Money goes into the Big Lie... Octafish Dec 2014 #22

I can never tell when you are serious. If you are it scares me. nt Logical Dec 2014 #31

So, you never heard of the Powell Memorandum? Octafish Dec 2014 #73

I love that your thread turned into a thread honoring Randi! Perfect! Nt Logical Dec 2014 #80

Really? Where? In your mind? Octafish Dec 2014 #84

Let's see, you have 3, maybe 4 sympathetic posters in this thread... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #95

So what? Octafish Dec 2014 #103

What truth? Seriously, all I see are lies defaming him for no better purpose than... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #105

Big fail. zappaman Dec 2014 #113

LOL, And that defines you in one sentence! Nt Logical Dec 2014 #100

Perfect! zappaman Dec 2014 #114

It did? Who is honoring Randi? sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #121

LOL, that explains a lot about you. nt Logical Dec 2014 #152

I know, that's why I posted it, in case anyone didn't 'know a lot' about me. sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #174

I do love your name! :-) nt Logical Dec 2014 #175

One of the reasons about 5-6 people come here snooper2 Dec 2014 #198

Really? That explains why you denigrated me for holding an interest in the assassination of JFK. Octafish Dec 2014 #206

to be honest, I don't know a conspiracy theory you don't have an interest in.... snooper2 Dec 2014 #207

You are confused, then. Octafish Dec 2014 #258

They call everything they want people to be silent about a CT. And whenever sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #298

+1...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #259

Well, edhopper Dec 2014 #136

Nailed it... SidDithers Dec 2014 #138

Then you have no idea about my ''agenda.'' Octafish Dec 2014 #282

... SidDithers Dec 2014 #2

Nothing to say about the subject of the post? Octafish Dec 2014 #263

Nope. Just laughing my ass off at your sad attempt to discredit Randi.. SidDithers Dec 2014 #265

Wrong, again. The OP is an article detailing Randi and how he operates to discredit others. Octafish Dec 2014 #266

Sure it is. You go on believing that, octafish of DU, if it makes you feel better...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #268

Not belief. Fact. Octafish Dec 2014 #271

Your idea of what is and isn't a "fact" leaves much to be desired... SidDithers Dec 2014 #272

Which is why you've never shown where I was wrong, siddithers of DU. Octafish Dec 2014 #273

So the complaint is that he did not properly document that dogs don't have ESP? Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #3

Yes, the snake oil salesman with the dog ESP "data" is somehow the victim? Of what, the truth? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #7

A pet owner knows their cat or dog gets to know the routines in the home. alfredo Dec 2014 #81

Hey quit using that logic and stuff! It Is more fun to believe dogs can read my mind. nt Logical Dec 2014 #99

They can't read, they just look at the pictures. alfredo Dec 2014 #108

Mine can read TlalocW Dec 2014 #302

Ha! alfredo Dec 2014 #306

And when they hear crumbling plastic-foil, they know there will be an opportunity to beg for food. DetlefK Dec 2014 #132

Or the most inopportune time to stick their nose in some lady's crotch. alfredo Dec 2014 #156

Yeah, our cat can hear my husband's car too arikara Dec 2014 #186

Is it hearing, or is it knowing to expect him soon? alfredo Dec 2014 #201

No, the complaint is a pattern of dishonesty on Randi's part CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #125

LOL, he has exposed 100s of scams, I'll trade that for a few mistakes. Wow, you are desperate. nt Logical Dec 2014 #153

we're talking about a deliberate attempt on Randi's part to deceive people. AlbertCat Dec 2014 #160

My data?? WTF, it's right in the freakin' article FFS CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #229

The article is a dishonest hit piece, nothing more, nothing less... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #231

You seem like the one with the "cherished beliefs" here CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #236

I think the point he made went over your head, like by a mile or more. Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #239

Not sure how you can have missed this, but I'll try again CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #251

Randi, 14 fucking years ago, admitted to a mistake, when the fuck is this latest breaking news?!? Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #252

The article is a dishonest hit piece, nothing more, nothing less... AlbertCat Dec 2014 #261

No it's not. zappaman Dec 2014 #234

One might ask after Sheldrake's data as well... Orsino Dec 2014 #4

I wish someone would do the damn test. joshcryer Dec 2014 #9

"Sheldrake ran a number of studies on a dog that seemed to know when its owner was coming home." hatrack Dec 2014 #5

They know your routine, they know the sound of your car. alfredo Dec 2014 #82

Or, it is merely confirmation bias. longship Dec 2014 #178

Until there is a good study, that's all we can go on. alfredo Dec 2014 #182

Yup. Because there is no ESP (in any life form). longship Dec 2014 #185

Randi needs to take on trickle down economics. alfredo Dec 2014 #199

That would be a good one. longship Dec 2014 #203

My daughter's dog knows when its time for dinner bhikkhu Dec 2014 #88

That's not really an accurate characterization CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #126

You realize no one has proved it is true, correct? No one!!! nt Logical Dec 2014 #155

it's the fact that Randi lied about it. AlbertCat Dec 2014 #162

Something I don't understand: Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #6

Becoming "sleepless with fury" doesn't seem very "rational" to me. scarletwoman Dec 2014 #10

Such as marketing Homeopathy as cures? Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #15

No. I'm only talking about people who believe something quietly by themselves. scarletwoman Dec 2014 #23

That's the point though, Sheldrake is committing open fraud or bad science, take your pick... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #28

How does positing that dogs have ESP harm anyone? scarletwoman Dec 2014 #51

You can claim that dogs have ESP till you are blue in the fact, but don't claim... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #53

Science vs. "...I can't even imagine..." CanSocDem Dec 2014 #140

What trouble? All I see are people lying through their teeth to disparage a man who... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #233

Yeah.... lies are OK AlbertCat Dec 2014 #164

In other words, you think people should only be "allowed" to think as you would have them think. scarletwoman Dec 2014 #235

People should be "allowed" to peddle lies as truth? AlbertCat Dec 2014 #262

Do you object to adults making decisions about their own lives? Do you want the sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #119

I would like for the government to prevent fraudsters from committing fraud.... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #122

A slightly more detailed, more profanity laden answer... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #124

Your right to worship the moon people who created the pyramids snooper2 Dec 2014 #200

What's the matter? You'd rather look at freeway traffic than the sky? You know sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #214

That is profound. Octafish Dec 2014 #296

the "faith healers" that Randi debunked were causing harm. m-lekktor Dec 2014 #16

Did you miss the part of my post where I said, scarletwoman Dec 2014 #45

The problem with your bigfoot and UFO examples is they are ambiguous... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #54

If I came across someone who thought the Earth was flat I'd certainly be taken aback. scarletwoman Dec 2014 #61

Um edhopper Dec 2014 #67

"Do you know any skeptics?" Well, they seem to be all over DU, so maybe I do. scarletwoman Dec 2014 #69

The quote is not yours edhopper Dec 2014 #70

Well, Big Pharma has killed people, how many did this guy kill? sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #172

Generally speaking I wouldn't, unless they are trying to make money off it, by... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #13

Sheldon would understand it. nt Logical Dec 2014 #19

Ha! Great point. n/t trotsky Dec 2014 #141

Um edhopper Dec 2014 #21

That's part of the smear of the article: to make the rational appear irrational. arcane1 Dec 2014 #29

No justice, no peace. nt greyl Dec 2014 #104

Who lets themselves become "sleepless with fury" over what someone else believes? trotsky Dec 2014 #137

Because that's a typical strawman unleashed when attacking a skeptic. chrisa Dec 2014 #275

It's not a bad thing to get het up about... Orsino Dec 2014 #307

Thank you, Octafish. scarletwoman Dec 2014 #8

You are most welcome, scarletwoman! It turns out Amazing Randi skeptics flock together on DU. Octafish Dec 2014 #74

Something tells me you don't really know much about skeptics. nt Logical Dec 2014 #102

oooh! Now this means homeopathy and natural cures are real science! wyldwolf Dec 2014 #11

Guess so. It's their business. Octafish Dec 2014 #85

Really? An article that failed to do that doesn't help, nor your supporters... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #91

What are you going on about? Long Drive Dec 2014 #120

Are you an alt? I was talking about what was already posted on this thread at the time... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #123

Welcome back to DU! zappaman Dec 2014 #184

that was really uncalled for! G_j Dec 2014 #274

James Randi is like the enigmatic wise man you climb a million steps up a mountain to see. chrisa Dec 2014 #12

And a eugenicist? In which case, not as wise as he (or you) thinks. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #32

Why not link to James Randi's response? Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #46

It's in the linked article. Now he says he didn't say it. Maybe he didn't, maybe NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #57

You don't get to get away from responsibility that easily, that's a piss poor excuse... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #58

It's not my responsibility to correct the record or decide who's right. I responded to NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #71

Your responsibility, as it were, would be to at least attempt to be accurate in your posts... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #90

Oh for gosh sake. I responded to a link from a legitimate media source (The Telegraph). NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #195

I'm saying that you are disparaging someone consciously by repeating ambiguous information... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #230

No, not really. Octafish Dec 2014 #86

"Phony" haha. zappaman Dec 2014 #115

Lol. Sorry Octafish. Luv ya but no dice. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #14

Feel free to disagree, Hassin Bin Sober. Octafish Dec 2014 #76

I just don't see him being angry and verbally aggressive. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #79

Maybe. Here's more from what the NYT wrote about Randi... Octafish Dec 2014 #89

I don't see how that is relevant, is Randi not allowed to be human, not allowed to love? Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #93

Love has nothing to do with the article. It does demonstrate that Randi's integrity is variable. Octafish Dec 2014 #96

For the man he is in love with, are you fucking kidding me? I would have done the same... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #97

A man edhopper Dec 2014 #135

Irony! zappaman Dec 2014 #116

I don't think you know what "irony" is... CanSocDem Dec 2014 #142

Okey dokey professor. zappaman Dec 2014 #183

You are treading on thin fucking ice there. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #118

For once, you and I agree. I find the crop circle threads amusing, but this shit crosses the line.nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #211

Disappointed to say the least. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #218

Yep. Isn't it a tragedy what gay couples had to go through before same sex marriage was legal? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #98

That Randi may have not told people about his partner's(now husband's) real identity... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #101

And this is evidence of what, precisely, other than of true love? nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #210

That Randi lying to protect the man he loves from harm or even death NuclearDem Dec 2014 #300

Crop circle logic. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #303

From my perspective that article elevates Randi's status. hunter Dec 2014 #217

Hey, Octa--Remember Rawlins & sTARBABY? Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #17

Thanks for the heads-up, Jackpine Radical! Spooks like the paranormal jazz... Octafish Dec 2014 #83

He has exposed a lot of idiots. People overall are gullible. Very disappointing! nt Logical Dec 2014 #18

What is very disappointing? This hitpiece? Its best to look at this article with a skeptical eye. Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #24

I mean Randi has exposed a lot of idiots. I am a huge Randi fan. You are correct..... Logical Dec 2014 #30

He's an idiot himself. NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #34

Do you enjoy looking up made up sources? Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #38

It is the quote given in the linked article and the linked article is what I responded NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #41

He's asking for a primary source, do but proving libel is difficult because intent has to be... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #49

As an aside... Adsos Letter Dec 2014 #301

LOL, let me guess, he has insulted some crazy belief of yours? nt Logical Dec 2014 #39

Eugenics has a sordid history, and the quotes from Randi are actually against NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #56

On review I may be a little harsh... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #59

Probably crop circles... zappaman Dec 2014 #187

Wow, that explains it. Thanks for the heads up! nt Logical Dec 2014 #204

And it's pretty hilarious how much the most credulous, believe-anything conspiracy theorists... SidDithers Dec 2014 #55

That is so true! Every scientist, athlete, businessman has made mistakes...... Logical Dec 2014 #65

Can you give me an example of Randi exposing a "conspiracy theorist"? CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #129

It would appear there's no response... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #240

Sheldrake? edhopper Dec 2014 #20

And Peter Popoff. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #36

Weird i was just talking about Popoff to someone yesterday. zappaman Dec 2014 #189

Morphic resonance my ass. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #25

Is that coot a libertarian like the asshats he's giving a thumbs up? whatchamacallit Dec 2014 #26

The James Randi Address in Falls Church VA nationalize the fed Dec 2014 #27

This means that Uri Geller was telling the truth all along! arcane1 Dec 2014 #33

Don't link to conspiracy nutcases to prove your "case", which isn't much of one, to put it mildly... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #35

Wow sagat Dec 2014 #43

Not just a run of the mill CT, but an anti-Semitic one on top of that! n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #47

Another link to that anti-Semitic site was posted here a few days ago. greyl Dec 2014 #72

You are posting something edhopper Dec 2014 #40

A shit-bag anti-Semite 9/11 Truther... SidDithers Dec 2014 #63

Too fucking funny... SidDithers Dec 2014 #60

Nice -- the guy you cite is an anti-Semitic lunatic. NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #109

Exactly... SidDithers Dec 2014 #145

I alerted on the jury result message from my inbox. That sends a message directly to the admins. NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #196

Green for victory! NuclearDem Dec 2014 #297

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #37

Here was my first exposure to Randi..... Logical Dec 2014 #42

Me too. We knew Randi when $10,000 dollars was a lot of money! Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2014 #75

It's sort of funny that I always want someone to claim it.... Logical Dec 2014 #77

Talk about 'low hanging fruit'... CanSocDem Dec 2014 #158

Please link to a peer reviewed paper in a major publication that proves.... Logical Dec 2014 #161

Presumably.... CanSocDem Dec 2014 #167

I will take Randi being correct 99% of the time.... Logical Dec 2014 #171

Integrity requires someone do the right thing 100-percent of the time. Octafish Dec 2014 #267

No edhopper Dec 2014 #269

Excellent point. Octafish Dec 2014 #278

Perhaps edhopper Dec 2014 #279

Really?? Your posts are 100% correct? LOL, now that is funny! nt Logical Dec 2014 #276

Where did I claim they were? Octafish Dec 2014 #277

It's not a matter of "being correct". CanSocDem Dec 2014 #291

The Daily Telegraph knows a LOT about lying Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #44

Did they help lie America into war, too? Octafish Dec 2014 #270

Fav Randi video. sagat Dec 2014 #48

I love this... Archae Dec 2014 #50

On a scale of zero to Moon Bombing I rate this thread a 6.5 LeftyMom Dec 2014 #52

It's at a 9 with this reply...... msanthrope Dec 2014 #209

He's a great man wheniwasincongress Dec 2014 #62

Do you remember Donald Howard Menzel, UFO debunker from Harvard? Octafish Dec 2014 #94

the three you mentioned are wheniwasincongress Dec 2014 #111

Wrong. They are three scientists who studied the question of UFOs. Octafish Dec 2014 #144

! edhopper Dec 2014 #148

Because a picture really says a lot. To learn, though, try a book. Octafish Dec 2014 #168

I am well aware of the work of these gentlemen edhopper Dec 2014 #170

Well, I read quite a few of those when I was a kid and believed in flying saucers. zappaman Dec 2014 #190

Is there anything you won't believe? snooper2 Dec 2014 #202

Wow… the difference between provocative discussion and concrete thinking... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #241

lol, my favorite. nt BootinUp Dec 2014 #248

He probably faked the milk-can-escape on Happy Days, too Orrex Dec 2014 #64

Well, this thread didn't really go the way the OP had hoped...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #66

LOL, I thought the same thing. Turned into a thread honoring Randi!! nt Logical Dec 2014 #78

++ true ThoughtCriminal Dec 2014 #87

I wouldn't say that at all CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #127

How do you know what happened to those reading the thread, Sid? MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #242

Come clean edhopper Dec 2014 #68

+1 n/t X_Digger Dec 2014 #92

My guess is crop circles. zappaman Dec 2014 #191

As opposed to knowing what creates them. Octafish Dec 2014 #193

"Monitoring" zappaman Dec 2014 #194

it doesn't even need Sheldrake: his fellow skeptics doubt that his anti-epistemological clique MisterP Dec 2014 #106

OK, so I searched for what you claimed, and it seemed to be wrong, here: Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #107

Dubious figure providing a dubious service to dubious parties. ucrdem Dec 2014 #110

I agree Randi kicks ass! zappaman Dec 2014 #112

I'd say a skeptic needs to take on our use and acceptance of torture, JEB Dec 2014 #117

You will never get that from Randi CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #131

Thanks for the info. JEB Dec 2014 #179

Thank you Octafish! Very good article CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #128

... SidDithers Dec 2014 #130

You are most welcome, CrawlingChaos! Octafish Dec 2014 #192

Yes, they are watching you. zappaman Dec 2014 #197

I have to say this Octafish CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #227

James Randi is a hero of rationality and science ProfessorPlum Dec 2014 #133

Eugenics, too. Octafish Dec 2014 #283

government allowing people to harm themselves is not the same as ProfessorPlum Dec 2014 #285

Nor does preventing addicts from self-destructing through treatment programs. Octafish Dec 2014 #293

Agreed. But the lack of that is not eugenics. ProfessorPlum Dec 2014 #305

Next we'll be seeing a post about time traveling radiation. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #134

You might like this site then kentauros Dec 2014 #139

Thank you, kentauros! ''We are skeptical about skeptics.'' Octafish Dec 2014 #220

You're welcome :) kentauros Dec 2014 #224

Hey, kentauros... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #243

Yes, a trickster, charlatan, and cheat who exposes tricksters, charlatans, and cheats... zappaman Dec 2014 #246

In fact, I do not... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #247

Randi is a magician by profession, magicians, by definition, are charlatans... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #250

Hay MrMickeysMom! :) kentauros Dec 2014 #254

Man… Isn't THIS a quote ! (JR is Taken for a Ride) MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #255

What I have learned in this thread edhopper Dec 2014 #143

And another think I learned is that... SidDithers Dec 2014 #146

True that edhopper Dec 2014 #147

skepticism is the SCOURGE of civilization librechik Dec 2014 #151

That might very well be the single most ridiculous post I'v ever seen on DU Orrex Dec 2014 #173

My thoughts exactly. Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #205

It's also a plea on behalf of time travel. Orrex Dec 2014 #212

Okay....this poster has written the funniest line in all of recorded DU..... msanthrope Dec 2014 #208

It was a slow pitch with bases loaded. Orrex Dec 2014 #213

So true edhopper Dec 2014 #176

I do hope that this is some kind of (un-funny) joke, mr blur Dec 2014 #216

Thank you, edhopper. Octafish Dec 2014 #221

How about going after the person who posted this drivel? zappaman Dec 2014 #222

Why do you imply I'm a homophobe, zappaman? Octafish Dec 2014 #223

I implied no such thing. zappaman Dec 2014 #225

Can we be truthful when talking about hit pieces? MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #244

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #245

Randi will be fine. He's part of the accepted narrative, Like Cosby. librechik Dec 2014 #149

* edhopper Dec 2014 #150

He is a pseudoscience nut. nt Logical Dec 2014 #154

with several university degrees and a MUCH larger appreciative audience librechik Dec 2014 #157

Wow, are you really that clueless? Logical Dec 2014 #159

Oooh, I like you. You have really thin skin! librechik Dec 2014 #163

When the fuck was science ever used to corroborate the existence of ESP? Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #237

THIS is the problem.... AlbertCat Dec 2014 #165

excuse me, they are peer reviewed. Oxford doesn't do it any other way. librechik Dec 2014 #169

The burden of proof is on the one making the extraordinary claim Silent3 Dec 2014 #177

He's a phony. AlbertCat Dec 2014 #181

Attack the debunker! AlbertCat Dec 2014 #166

Incredible Randi is incredible that is all (nt) LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #180

Thanks for another good one Octafish arikara Dec 2014 #188

How is he an asshole? Please illuminate us on this, no lies please. n/t Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #228

I know Randi personally. He is an ethical person. immoderate Dec 2014 #215

Thanks. Is that why you knew his old ED had vamoosed? Octafish Dec 2014 #219

I think I first heard that indirectly, from somebody in local CFI. immoderate Dec 2014 #226

a kick for the humorous posts in this thread. BootinUp Dec 2014 #232

The Sheldrake Kerfluffle frogmarch Dec 2014 #238

There is no reason to believe one word of that CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #249

I believe this is called reaching, and why the fuck is Randi expected to be perfect... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #253

Because he demands perfection in those he chooses to denigrate. Octafish Dec 2014 #264

The point is frogmarch Dec 2014 #256

I'm sorry, but it's really not CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #257

Did you read frogmarch Dec 2014 #260

Yes I've read it. It's just a bunch of obfuscation directly from Randi's organization CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #281

If you believe in one conspiracy theory, chance are you believe in several.... YoungDemCA Dec 2014 #280

Scientists Prove That Telepathic Communication Is Within Reach Octafish Dec 2014 #284

cool! G_j Dec 2014 #286

Smithsonian. Octafish Dec 2014 #288

what a strange thing to post ProfessorPlum Dec 2014 #287

Yeah, that's not telepathic communication... SidDithers Dec 2014 #290

That's not telepathy. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #299

Rupert Sheldrake is a nutcase with Schizotypal Personality Disorder. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #289

Not from what I know. The guy's got his stuff together. Octafish Dec 2014 #292

The Problem With James Randi arnoldruge2014 Dec 2014 #294

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Dec 2014 #295

It doesn't take 10 hours. Like George Carlin said... Major Nikon Dec 2014 #304

Silly hit piece. And when Randi dies I'm sure that the usual suspects GoneOffShore Jan 2015 #308