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In reply to the discussion: Does ANYONE here SERIOUSLY believe that DU is full of paid trolls? [View all]uhnope
(6,419 posts)85. that's easy. Whether you'll admit you're wrong is the hard part
You actually have a problem with this program, and try to twist it into something aimed at the USA?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/world/middleeast/us-aims-to-blunt-terrorist-recruiting-of-english-speakers.html?_r=0
To counter the use of the Internet by extremists over the past decade, American cyberwarriors have gone into chat rooms to sow confusion, or to inject poisonous code to take down websites. Sometimes, they choose not to act, but silently track the online movements of jihadists to learn their plans.
By contrast, the centers postings will be clearly identified as products of the State Department and will in some cases carry the agencys logo, agency officials said. The postings are aimed at foreign websites, though Americans, obviously, can visit the sites.
By contrast, the centers postings will be clearly identified as products of the State Department and will in some cases carry the agencys logo, agency officials said. The postings are aimed at foreign websites, though Americans, obviously, can visit the sites.
I don't actually have a problem with allowing Somalis in the USA listen to VOA Somalia. Do you?
What is the point of highlighting that section in red in your post, since it undercuts your own claim?
One example included a report by the late BuzzFeed reporter Michael Hastings, who suggested that the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act would open the door to Pentagon propaganda of U.S. audiences. In fact, as amended in 1987, the act only covers portions of the State Department engaged in public diplomacy abroad (i.e. the public diplomacy section of the "R" bureau, and the Broadcasting Board of Governors.)
http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/
VOA has been a great benefit over the years to people living under regimes with controlled press. And I'm glad there's a program going to Arabic-language chat rooms to try to talk young fools out of ruining their lives by joining extremist religious hate groups.
And I don't have a problem with the one in English, either, whether or not it is still running:
In the pilot program that began Wednesday, the same analysts will for the first time also post messages on English-language websites that jihadists use to recruit, raise money and promote their cause. For now, the analysts will post only images and messages, not engage extremists in online conversations, as they do in the other languages.
We need to be ready to blunt their appeal, said Alberto M. Fernandez, a former American ambassador to Equatorial Guinea who is the coordinator of the State Department office, the Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications.
The online messaging aims to create a competing narrative that strikes an emotional chord with potential militants weighing whether to join a violent extremist group. One online image, for instance, shows photographs of three American men who traveled to Somalia and died there, including Omar Hammami, a young man from Alabama who became an infamous Islamist militant. The accompanying message reads, They came for jihad but were murdered by Al Shabab.
Another image to be posted shows a young man weeping over a coffin. The message reads, How can slaughtering the innocent be the right path?
We need to be ready to blunt their appeal, said Alberto M. Fernandez, a former American ambassador to Equatorial Guinea who is the coordinator of the State Department office, the Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications.
The online messaging aims to create a competing narrative that strikes an emotional chord with potential militants weighing whether to join a violent extremist group. One online image, for instance, shows photographs of three American men who traveled to Somalia and died there, including Omar Hammami, a young man from Alabama who became an infamous Islamist militant. The accompanying message reads, They came for jihad but were murdered by Al Shabab.
Another image to be posted shows a young man weeping over a coffin. The message reads, How can slaughtering the innocent be the right path?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/world/middleeast/us-aims-to-blunt-terrorist-recruiting-of-english-speakers.html?_r=0
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Does ANYONE here SERIOUSLY believe that DU is full of paid trolls? [View all]
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2015
OP
Some try to come here, but I do think we have a pretty good system of weeding them out
hlthe2b
Jan 2015
#2
I received an offer to post on Mitt Romney's blog to cause confusion and doubt in 2012.
Major Hogwash
Jan 2015
#164
several years ago before baggers had their "twitter training camps" there were craigslist ads asking
Sunlei
Jan 2015
#219
I don't think they are paid for it, but yeah and I don't think they are working for the candidates.
Autumn
Jan 2015
#3
Jeebus, I come back from my agency's mandatory holiday break to this crap thread?
msanthrope
Jan 2015
#12
It isn't pleasant to be called a paid shill when you're a supporter...tell them you 'work' for free!
Sunlei
Jan 2015
#222
Sweet, could you come over to my cube and finish this engineering documentation?
snooper2
Jan 2015
#186
Thank you for the source. Anyone who doesn't consider this at least a possibility
canoeist52
Jan 2015
#32
It would be foolish not to think that there are people here that are paid to stir the pot
notadmblnd
Jan 2015
#30
Paid by ALEC callers call into all radio shows, read the same script over and over
randys1
Jan 2015
#33
I suggest to google "propaganda" and read a little how well that concept works today.
Sunlei
Jan 2015
#220
it's a website where people post. Of COURSE there are trolls. But paid trolls?
KittyWampus
Jan 2015
#62
When issues pretty much settled in the democratic party, like women's rights or
applegrove
Jan 2015
#66
Yeah, that actually explains some otherwise inexplicable shit around here.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2015
#95
Of course not...it's just what people want to believe when they can't beat an argument.
ileus
Jan 2015
#80
Probably not. But, if they're making more than a dollar a week, they're overpaid.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2015
#84
I must say, the results so far slightly disappoint me. I wish people could see that people simply
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2015
#88
I think it is batshit crazy to believe people hold different opinions because they are paid to. This
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2015
#168
Both can exist you know. There are people on here who simply disagree. There are some on here
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2015
#177
o you then believe that people who disagree with your initial premise are not "simply disagreeing"?
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#214
I have more of an issue with people not being transparent about who they work for.
Starry Messenger
Jan 2015
#89
I suspect there are almost as many reasons for posting on DU as there are DUers
petronius
Jan 2015
#92
well Mr. Wolf, Could you kindly direct me to a progressive group that would pay me to swing DU
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2015
#169
I don't think your attempt at what you thought was a push poll worked out the way you thought. nt.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2015
#100
why do you think I was attempting a push pole?. Do you SERIOUSLY believe that there are several paid
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2015
#184
To believe there are paid trolls, one would need to believe there's a reason to have them...
brooklynite
Jan 2015
#111
Full? No. Are there some very prominent, very vocal, very anti-Democrat ones here?
LadyHawkAZ
Jan 2015
#147
Must be, because I've lost count of how many times I've been accused of being one...
Blue_Tires
Jan 2015
#157
No, and DU is one of the few places on the internet we can have a real discussion.
chrisa
Jan 2015
#192
I have always thought we should be PAID for our information collected online. :)
Sunlei
Jan 2015
#218
I think there are more who are not honest about their personal motives for posting what they post
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2015
#195
Only the people that take this site (and themselves) too seriously... n/t
leeroysphitz
Jan 2015
#201