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cadaverdog

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Mon Jan 5, 2015, 11:48 AM Jan 2015

"The TPP is not about free trade. It's a corporate coup d'etat--against us!" [View all]

I have been pretty much a "lurker" here, just dropping the occasional quip from time to time, pretty much avoiding the real heat of battle. But, I have also been following the goings-on surrounding the TPP, and I now consider the TPP to be a "clear and present danger" to this Country. Hopefully I can offer some clarity as to why I feel so. To that end I present selections from three pieces I consider to be most helpful in forming an opinion regarding the TPP. I encourage you follow the links to the full articles--your time won't be wasted. All bolds are mine.

From Alternet, Jun 29, 2012

Trans-Pacific Partnership: Under Cover of Darkness, a Corporate Coup is Underway


With the direct participation of 600 corporations and shocking levels of secrecy, the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) is rushing to complete the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). Branded as a trade agreement (yawn) by its corporate proponents, TPP largely has evaded public and congressional scrutiny since negotiations were launched in 2008 by the George W. Bush administration.

But trade is the least of it. Only two of TPP’s 26 chapters actually have to do with trade. The rest is about new enforceable corporate rights and privileges and constraints on government regulation. This includes new extensions of price-raising drug patent monopolies, corporate rights to attack government drug formulary pricing plans, safeguards to facilitate job offshoring and new corporate controls over natural resources.


more at: http://www.alternet.org/story/156059/trans-pacific_partnership%3A_under_cover_of_darkness,_a_corporate_coup_is_underway


If you read only one of these articles in it's entirety, make it the following. I like to think of it as a "Dummies Guide to the TPP"

From the Aug, 2013 edition of the Hightower Lowdown, by Jim Hightower:


The Trans-Pacific Partnership is not about free trade. It's a corporate coup d'etat--against us!

The other two dozen chapters amount to a devilish "partnership" for corporate protectionism. They create sweeping new "rights" and escape hatches to protect multinational corporations from accountability to our governments... and to us. Here are a few of TPP's provisos that would make our daily lives riskier, poorer, and less free:

Food safety. Any of our government's food safety regulations (on pesticide levels, bacterial contamination, fecal exposure, toxic additives, GMOs, non-edible fillers, etc.) that are stricter than "international standards," as most are, could be ruled as "illegal trade barriers." Then our government would have to revise our consumer protections to comply with the weaker global standards. Also, our government could no longer ban meat imports that don't meet our safe-to-eat laws, as long as the exporting nation simply claims that its inspection system is "equivalent" to ours. In addition, food labeling laws we rely on (organic, country-of-origin, animal-welfare approved, GMO-free, etc.) would also be subject to challenge as trade barriers.

more at: http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/node/3402#.VKnRVCi6zCM

Which brings us up to just a few days ago, Dec. 30, 2014. From the NYTimes:

Obama's Trade Chief, Undaunted by Odds, Pushes for Trans-Pacific Partnership

A California-born lawyer who has known Mr. Obama since they were classmates at Harvard Law School, Mr.(Michael) Froman, 52, exudes a genial charm. But it masks a relentless drive that propelled him from senior posts in the Clinton administration to a career at Citigroup, where he earned millions of dollars before resigning to join the Obama administration. (snip)

As the negotiations for T.P.P. have dragged on, missing multiple deadlines, Mr. Froman has expressed unwavering confidence in the outcome, saying the various parties are searching for “landing zones” on issues ranging from Japanese farm subsidies to Vietnamese labor regulations.(snip)

“Mike Froman, he’s wonderful,” said Representative Dave Reichert, Republican of Washington, who has formed the Friends of T.P.P. with a small, bipartisan and regionally diverse group of four representatives.

(I wonder if Congressman "Sandy" Levin is one of the four?)

more at: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/31/business/obamas-trade-chief-undaunted-by-odds-pushes-for-trans-pacific-partnership.html?_r=0

Finally, this is how I see it; if the 600 corporate participants can agree on the substance of the treaty, and if the President is granted "fast track" authorization," the treaty will be presented to him for his signature, after which the Congress will go through the motions (maybe Alan Grayson's famous 88 seconds)and a straight up or down vote, and Wham! it's a done deal. No open debate, no amendments, no filibuster, and no expiration date! No future President can overturn this piece of treaty.(this restriction is from multiple sources) "But the Republicans are just as likely to deny Obama fast track, because they hate him!" Yeah, when was the last time you saw Republicans reject something big business really wanted? And McConnell supports the TPP.

It's going to be very ugly if this goes through. Please, at the very least write or phone your members of congress urging them to stop this corporate takeover of United States.

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wish I could kick and rec 1000 times. djean111 Jan 2015 #1
...^ that 840high Jan 2015 #14
Exactly! arcane1 Jan 2015 #20
Contact your Right Wing friends and tell them QuestionAlways Jan 2015 #77
Ah - you are right! New World Order it is, really, and they yammer about that all the time, djean111 Jan 2015 #85
K&R&bookmark JEB Jan 2015 #2
Thank you Blecht Jan 2015 #3
It's corporate takeover complete. I've followed this for a couple years. The ultra wealthy must have appalachiablue Jan 2015 #4
If they don't yet they soon will. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #59
K&r nt antigop Jan 2015 #5
K&R nt stage left Jan 2015 #6
k and r + a gazillion niyad Jan 2015 #7
We have to unite againist things we can agree on. Bipartisian so to speak 48lowes Jan 2015 #8
TPP has ''LARRY SUMMERS'' written all over it. Octafish Jan 2015 #9
K & R - I completely agree that TPP is a corporate coup d'etat 99th_Monkey Jan 2015 #10
TTIP- the TransAtlantic Trade & Investment Partnership is another huge component that appalachiablue Jan 2015 #11
When a financial crush happens they all fall by signed agreement on paper. gordianot Jan 2015 #12
And that's just what has been revealed. The secret part will be much worse Doctor_J Jan 2015 #13
corporate soverengity Locrian Jan 2015 #15
NAFTA was about corporations having more power than people. Initech Jan 2015 #16
I live in Tn. dotymed Jan 2015 #17
What's the big deal about this ?? BlueJazz Jan 2015 #18
Looks like George Carlin's "meatcake" ReRe Jan 2015 #81
Ah....Edward G. Wonderful, wonderful actor. "Yeah kid, you're good, you're real good,... BlueJazz Jan 2015 #83
I loved that little man ;-) n/t ReRe Jan 2015 #87
And we know what that says about ANY politician who supports it. arcane1 Jan 2015 #19
Please tell me why corporations need TPP if everything upaloopa Jan 2015 #32
Yet I still keep seeing Deny and Shred Jan 2015 #80
The TPP and other 'trade' agreements are a corporate scam. blackspade Jan 2015 #21
Krugman does not believe that it represents a corporate coup d'etat. WorldNut Daily agrees with you. pampango Jan 2015 #22
Krugman is against it, and so am I. I'm not sure why you needed the WND smear. arcane1 Jan 2015 #27
Krugman is not against it. He thinks it is no big deal one way or the other. pampango Jan 2015 #33
Quotes from your link: "It’s far from clear that the T.P.P. is a good idea." arcane1 Jan 2015 #42
lol you're going to have to start Union Scribe Jan 2015 #41
Does that mean you think the wacko right actually supports the TPP? They are paranoid about pampango Jan 2015 #43
That appears to be a poll about fast-track approval, not about the TPP itself. arcane1 Jan 2015 #54
It is. Another poll shows Democratic support for TPP itself at 59%, republican support at 49%. pampango Jan 2015 #55
"only Democrats that identify as “liberal” strongly favor the idea" Number23 Jan 2015 #70
The WND smear says everything about your post. Scuba Jan 2015 #56
If you consider the far-right's opposition to fast track and the TPP as a irrelevant and a smear, pampango Jan 2015 #65
You should try reading Krugman MFrohike Jan 2015 #71
Cue the apologists Z_California Jan 2015 #23
To respond to the first question you can tell them cadaverdog Jan 2015 #40
Oh yeah, forgot Z_California Jan 2015 #24
Actually most republicans don't like it and most Democrats do though pampango Jan 2015 #35
That's been your entire argument on the thread, though Scootaloo Jan 2015 #52
No. The fact that republicans oppose it and Democrats support it does not make it good or right. pampango Jan 2015 #53
I do not think it is very likely... Scootaloo Jan 2015 #57
The right wing in Japan generally supports it Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #58
You are smoking some seriously good shit if you believe any forthcoming chapters TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #86
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Jan 2015 #25
K&R.... daleanime Jan 2015 #26
K & R AzDar Jan 2015 #28
But but but onecaliberal Jan 2015 #29
I got kicked out of the Barack Obama group upaloopa Jan 2015 #30
Only demonstrating how clever those powerful people who run things in this country are. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #34
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^n/t truedelphi Jan 2015 #49
And turning back on deals that cannot be changed without ananimous consent is indeed difficult. Faryn Balyncd Jan 2015 #72
congrats! non worshippers are not welcome there lol nt msongs Jan 2015 #37
To be on that group, a person must be in a swoon any time an attractive photo of the truedelphi Jan 2015 #51
I think the BOG are some kind of lobbying team. grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #64
Disturbing shireen Jan 2015 #31
Two ways, there have been leaks, through Wikileaks and recently they 'allowed' a few members of sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #36
thank you! shireen Jan 2015 #39
The thing is, you can be against it in principle, NorthCarolina Jan 2015 #84
"in secret" - that sums it up nt msongs Jan 2015 #38
Totally, and I would have to say that Phlem Jan 2015 #44
The Big Dagger From The Neo Democrats colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #45
The TPP would be dead in the water right now, if it was Jeb Bush in the WH. truedelphi Jan 2015 #46
Spot on. Phlem Jan 2015 #50
+1 liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #60
To be honest Phlem Jan 2015 #48
K&R Hubert Flottz Jan 2015 #47
This issue is a big red alert. Central Scruitinizer Jan 2015 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Central Scruitinizer Jan 2015 #62
It's the end of democracy. grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #63
a big K and R whereisjustice Jan 2015 #66
Coup is the right word. JDPriestly Jan 2015 #67
Needs to be seen far and wide Ramses Jan 2015 #68
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #69
and a big K & R! n/t wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #73
and another K&R They_Live Jan 2015 #74
K&R Joe Shlabotnik Jan 2015 #75
Representative Dave Reichert easychoice Jan 2015 #76
And to think the TPP was crafted by the next Democratic Presidential candidate Maedhros Jan 2015 #78
Yeah,she came in 3rd. behind an ambulance chaser last time. easychoice Jan 2015 #79
Elizabeth Warren money quote about TPP 90-percent Jan 2015 #82
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