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The2ndWheel

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13. It would be easy if there was moral fact

Mon Jan 5, 2015, 12:12 PM

Jan 2015

It's certainly a great thought.

Good and bad, right and wrong. It all depends on the context of the situation in which you find yourself in a given time and place. It's all opinion. And force, whether by pen and/or gun, is what determines who's opinion is followed. Might makes right, and it always has.

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All Forms of Life Are Sacred. [View all] kpete Jan 2015 OP

I'm not sure you can say that about asian carp... snooper2 Jan 2015 #1

Or crapping on a good post. Octafish Jan 2015 #28

traditions are sacred! snooper2 Jan 2015 #31

*all* forms of life? plants? bacteria? viruses? fungi? unblock Jan 2015 #2

The Earth is a Sentient Living Organism kpete Jan 2015 #3

+1 Zorra Jan 2015 #17

thank you for that beautiful image niyad Jan 2015 #30

from NASA kpete Jan 2015 #34

Sentient? Alive? I don't think so. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #25

No, the Earth is a drifting hunk of rock... SidDithers Jan 2015 #48

I see no evidence that the earth as a whole is sentient Shivering Jemmy Jan 2015 #51

Rats and cockroaches are not on my sacred list. hobbit709 Jan 2015 #4

Neither are spiders, stinging insects (except honeybees), poisonous snakes, huge snakes, Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #61

I agree with everything, but one point. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #5

I am with you MoonRiver kpete Jan 2015 #9

This: chervilant Jan 2015 #6

Well said! MoonRiver Jan 2015 #7

Thanks so much! chervilant Jan 2015 #19

Me too! MoonRiver Jan 2015 #23

I agree as well, but with a sad and ironic twist GliderGuider Jan 2015 #43

Finding alternative forms of protein chervilant Jan 2015 #47

If it was just protein replacement I'd have been OK GliderGuider Jan 2015 #50

Have you read Ann Louise Gittleman? chervilant Jan 2015 #59

I agree with this, and for reasons of kindness, but in addition, if another argument is needed, ellenrr Jan 2015 #54

Its an interesting argument el_bryanto Jan 2015 #8

"All forms of life are sacred?" Archae Jan 2015 #10

I have no problem with your chicken sandwich kpete Jan 2015 #16

+1. We are part of nature, not above it. Adrahil Jan 2015 #67

And plants? jeff47 Jan 2015 #11

I think the article clearly referred to "sentient beings." MoonRiver Jan 2015 #12

And sentience is.....? jeff47 Jan 2015 #18

Typical meat eater rationalizations. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #24

Keep telling yourself that. That way you can ignore the questions. jeff47 Jan 2015 #38

Interesting tangent, chervilant Jan 2015 #29

And ripping apart creatures while they're alive isn't exactly "humane" jeff47 Jan 2015 #39

Most of the veggies I grow chervilant Jan 2015 #44

You chew your food. jeff47 Jan 2015 #46

OMG!! chervilant Jan 2015 #58

Yep. jeff47 Jan 2015 #64

Sentient being a word created and defined by human beings The2ndWheel Jan 2015 #22

Have you ever had a relationship with a cow, pig or chicken? MoonRiver Jan 2015 #26

Which is fine The2ndWheel Jan 2015 #32

Thank you for being reasonable. It's rare in these type of discussions. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #56

How about the eyes of a potato? n/t benz380 Jan 2015 #33

How is your inability to relate to a cabbage any different jeff47 Jan 2015 #41

I don't really know what my husband or children are experiencing. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #55

Then what was your point of bringing up cows, pigs and chickens? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2015 #65

Because I have interactions with them similar to what I have with my pets. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #68

lines and boundaries kpete Jan 2015 #37

It would be easy if there was moral fact The2ndWheel Jan 2015 #13

George Carlin on the sanctity of life. iandhr Jan 2015 #14

+1000 "save the crabs". lumberjack_jeff Jan 2015 #45

An inconvenient truth for many. Zorra Jan 2015 #15

Zorra kpete Jan 2015 #20

My dear kpete... Zorra Jan 2015 #21

I hope you know that there are DUers chervilant Jan 2015 #35

My dear chervilant, Zorra Jan 2015 #49

Chris Hedges is, of course, correct. Octafish Jan 2015 #27

Nature, and especially human nature, is messy. hunter Jan 2015 #36

I have killed animals--deer, game birds, fish-- Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #40

loved this kpete Jan 2015 #42

re informational perspective...I've killed for biological information HereSince1628 Jan 2015 #62

Well, except for mosquitoes. Fuck them. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #52

Not to mention any critter whose name ends in "tick." Jackpine Radical Jan 2015 #63

William Kunstler had become an advocate for the animals before he died. nt ellenrr Jan 2015 #53

Tell that to the ants I sprayed in my garage this morning. Throd Jan 2015 #57

There goes BioFuel, along with enslaving corn and wheat. One_Life_To_Give Jan 2015 #60

I'll take mine medium-rare, please! Adrahil Jan 2015 #66

River of Time seveneyes Jan 2015 #69

Unless they are a Democratic voter for over 30 years... NightOwwl Jan 2015 #70