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freshwest

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95. Keystone was arranged in 2007 under Bush. They thought it was a sure thing. Then with under 2 months
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 10:15 PM
Jan 2015
Democratic majority* in total at the end of the Bush reign, Congress didn't allow it.

The very first CR Obama had to sign onto (after Koch was threatening dire consequences for not going with the Bush deal in 2010 and funded the astroturf Tea Party with the robust assistance of M$M) in 2011, had a front load request from new Speaker Boehner when Pelosi had to turn over the gavel.

Obama negotiated out of it.

Then came the Sequester in 2011. Then came another threat to the operation of the nation in 2012. And in 2013. And in 2014. In each case, they attacked social programs to do the most harm because of Obama stalling them in order to educate people.

He negotiated out of it each time.

He said then, as he always had, that it was up to us in all these things. Not because he needed us to abuse him to make him do the right thing. Because in a democracy the majority rules. And they show their power in communities and at the ballot box.

So the activism has finally gotten the attention of M$M and many have worked to expose the Koch brothers. They would make $100B the first year of the flow, and that would be tax free. The Koch brothers have a lot of friends in Canada, obviously. And in other nations, as well.

Now they are making their next attack on a theme that they shrieked and frothed at the mouth about when PBO relaxed some of the SSDI rules, even granting fast track compassionate certification and enabling those in their fifties to retire early because of the dual dilemma of injury and age in getting a job they could do to make it to the regular retirement age.

It is expected to be an very hostile next two years, and many votes will be down to the wire as the GOP seeks to do the bidding of their Koch masters and promote their Libertarian brand of life. It will require not only intelligent objections en masse conveyed to Democratic Republican elected officials. Be assured, M$M will support the end of Social Security with as much vigor as they applauded the Tea Party and the Iraq War.



*The fabled majority of 2 years I don't even bother to correct anymore, I've given up, in spite of numerous links posted by several DUers showing the person by person races and the issues, illnesses, contested elections and Joe Liebermann. Some of us followed the election numbers daily and remember those things, and they are documented in many places, not just at DU.

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i read the coments on the CNN article... Takket Jan 2015 #1
The loud mouthed right wingers I'm exposed to on a regular basis... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #6
Keystone is a true special interest turd BeyondGeography Jan 2015 #26
just curious NewJeffCT Jan 2015 #33
Funny you should ask... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #36
Just as Obama always said. The cognitive dissonance will make them go nuts. freshwest Jan 2015 #77
Fresh! Cha Jan 2015 #110
Tell them Obama's against it IkeRepublican Jan 2015 #101
Republicans want it for one reason only, because Environmentalists HATE it.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #37
No they want it because the billionaires who fund their campaigns want it. mucifer Jan 2015 #68
That's just a bonus. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #69
Bravo Mr. President! bluesbassman Jan 2015 #2
Never doubted it for a second. But some here did. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #3
i was one of those. And I am fucking happy to Autumn Jan 2015 #10
I make a very tender cutlet of the breast, use the rest for pie. msanthrope Jan 2015 #12
You are the coolest. Number23 Jan 2015 #52
I thank you for the lovely compliment, and wish you and yours Peace and Justice. msanthrope Jan 2015 #58
Damn, I didn't even know that poster was still here. Number23 Jan 2015 #61
Well, had to earn my bonus, right? nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #64
Some never learn not to underestimate President Obama....I have been saying that for years now.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #81
The legislation refrenced is a bill forcing the passage of the KXL. The decision on KXL Autumn Jan 2015 #84
exactly....thus the cards close to his vest.....do NOT try to figure him out... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #87
Sure Autumn Jan 2015 #89
And continue to do so. But they just don't like President Obama so that colors BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #19
Well, some light their hair with tar sand oil.....it's got a high ignition point not msanthrope Jan 2015 #23
It never ceases to amaze me. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #88
And the reason why some don't like Obama is because of his color. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2015 #40
I didn't want to believe that before, but... BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #90
Ain't that the truth--the tar was heated and the chickenfeathers plucked, with over-the-top MADem Jan 2015 #46
Aww...we still have the TPP threads!!! nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #55
Yeah, i have to laugh at those, too... MADem Jan 2015 #59
Did you ever read the Presidential Time Machine thread on the TPP? msanthrope Jan 2015 #62
Game-set-match~! MADem Jan 2015 #113
Plus 100B, same amount of dollars the Koch brothers' expected to get in one year of this boondoggle. freshwest Jan 2015 #79
I had doubts until I saw it was $8 billion. joshcryer Jan 2015 #78
Nor did I, msanthrope.. Can't wait until it's a Cha Jan 2015 #108
Wow. Now THAT is awesome! WinkyDink Jan 2015 #4
WooHoo!!! RiverLover Jan 2015 #5
XM pipeline will never be able to 'pretend' they're a clean, healthy, 'trustworthy' Industry. Sunlei Jan 2015 #7
yay!! k & R nt m-lekktor Jan 2015 #8
President Obama. Thank you. Autumn Jan 2015 #9
Excellent! QC Jan 2015 #11
good... yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #13
I'm happy to be wrong on this one. NV Whino Jan 2015 #14
Woof! dawg Jan 2015 #15
Very good. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #16
Bravo Mr. President! Puglover Jan 2015 #17
Kick. (nt) NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #18
Excellent!! Scurrilous Jan 2015 #20
k&r... spanone Jan 2015 #21
Great news! City Lights Jan 2015 #22
SO pleased! n/t Brainstormy Jan 2015 #24
Thank you... handmade34 Jan 2015 #25
The Koch Brothers own the majority of the tar sand leases in Canada. Zen Democrat Jan 2015 #27
Good. I hope he does the same on TPP. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2015 #28
Yay! AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #29
Good. Better than most expected, now what's he going to do to sell us down the river? Hoyt Jan 2015 #30
I'd say that most already knew he would do the right thing. tridim Jan 2015 #41
Aw, sorry this outrage cow dried up for ya...there's always TPP. great white snark Jan 2015 #74
And Paris. Or at least Plaster of Paris. freshwest Jan 2015 #82
Does this mean some DUers will start supporting the pipeline? IronLionZion Jan 2015 #112
Awesome! whatchamacallit Jan 2015 #31
Barack "The ROCK" flamingdem Jan 2015 #32
Lovely Hutzpa Jan 2015 #34
But! But! But! That can't be! Corporatist shill, wall street Whargarble!!!11!11!!11elevens!!!! stevenleser Jan 2015 #35
I don't know about you, but if I needed transportation in a hurry, MADem Jan 2015 #47
"I would gladly buy a used car from that man" MADem for the WIN!!! Number23 Jan 2015 #54
Don't hold back! Heads have been on fire for a long, long time! freshwest Jan 2015 #83
Now, that's the man I voted for twice. Jack Rabbit Jan 2015 #38
Yayyy! Duval Jan 2015 #39
Fantastic! bigwillq Jan 2015 #42
With oil at $48 a barrel Not Me Jan 2015 #43
Exactly! Quackers Jan 2015 #60
He could approve it, and it still wouldn't be built. ozone_man Jan 2015 #80
Is he gonna play hardball politics with the Republicans? kentuck Jan 2015 #44
The "hostage" is dead and floating belly-up. POTUS is going to veto the bill. nt Hekate Jan 2015 #93
Thank you, President Obama. stage left Jan 2015 #45
Yes this is wonderful news and I expected it. But this may not be the end of it. hue Jan 2015 #48
Thank you Mr. President! Z_California Jan 2015 #49
Hasn't happened yet. KG Jan 2015 #50
No shite Sherlock. Cha Jan 2015 #109
Now This, is the Obama i voted for ! penndragon69 Jan 2015 #51
LESS than turbinetree Jan 2015 #53
Two questions: 1) how long has it been known or suspected that he would do this? Number23 Jan 2015 #56
I posted a LOT on it in February 2013, if you're interested: freshwest Jan 2015 #85
For the record it was also reported back in November(ish) he was expected to veto it. herding cats Jan 2015 #94
Keystone was arranged in 2007 under Bush. They thought it was a sure thing. Then with under 2 months freshwest Jan 2015 #95
You're an excellent fount of information! herding cats Jan 2015 #99
Appreciate that reply very much. Makes it all seem worthwhile for me. Thanks! freshwest Jan 2015 #103
Thak you for staying on top of it, feshwest Hekate Jan 2015 #98
Hey, glad to see you posting a little bit more, too, Hekate! freshwest Jan 2015 #104
I love this for so many reasons... Spazito Jan 2015 #57
Hey Hillary DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #63
Obama signalled as much in his end of 2014 speech vlyons Jan 2015 #65
Booyah ..... mad props to S. S. Botany Jan 2015 #66
knr frylock Jan 2015 #67
Congress can't "force approval" of this Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #70
Why would you support Keystone XL? n/t Spazito Jan 2015 #73
Because oil shipments dominating rail infrastructure isn't in anyone's interest. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #102
Why do refineries in the Gulf Coast region need dirty oil? Spazito Jan 2015 #114
Because the communist peasants of Venezuela aren't very good at managing oil production Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #119
Now that the Canadian government has put in place penalties for rail shippers... Spazito Jan 2015 #120
The Canadian government has no sway over the US railroads Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #121
The transport of tar sands oil starts in Alberta, Canada... Spazito Jan 2015 #122
Most of the US bound oil from the tar sands never touches a tanker car in Canada Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #123
"what Keystone XL alone would carry"... Spazito Jan 2015 #124
I support oil and gas production in the US and Canada 100% Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #125
Moving away from oil and gas to alternatives would make them even more irrelevant... Spazito Jan 2015 #126
That's a great long-term strategy, Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2015 #127
We shall see n/t Spazito Jan 2015 #128
I read months ago he was not going to go along with this deal. Rex Jan 2015 #71
Woohoo! ybbor Jan 2015 #72
Very Good! Ramses Jan 2015 #75
NO SURPRISE! freshwest Jan 2015 #76
Like lovemydog Jan 2015 #86
No surprise to those of us paying attention to the nuances of his statements. As to why he didn't... Hekate Jan 2015 #91
Kudos! grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #92
Let's Cool Our Jets a Bit 1step Jan 2015 #96
Good. nikto Jan 2015 #97
Good for you Mr. President! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #100
White House: Obama Won’t Sign Keystone XL Pipeline Bill Cha Jan 2015 #105
It's very good news, Cha. ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2015 #106
I was so excited I forgot my link, CTD.. Cha Jan 2015 #107
Yes Yes YES! defacto7 Jan 2015 #111
Awesome news. I wonder how much oil prices had to do with this decision? raouldukelives Jan 2015 #115
I hope he does, We'll see Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #116
President Obama "would veto" what legislation? Orsino Jan 2015 #117
Great news. Thank you Mr. President and thanks to those on the left that have kept rhett o rick Jan 2015 #118
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