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15. He repeatedly lied in his efforts to make Anwar Al-Awlaki a poor innocent
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 04:34 PM
Feb 2015

moderate who was radicalized by the evil US government and about whom there was zero evidence ever that he broke a single law.

Does that sound like the New Osama bin Laden to you? One could call him the opposite of bin Laden. And yet, a mere nine years later, there was Awlaki, in an Al Jazeera interview, pronouncing his opinion that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s attempt to blow up a civilian jet over Detroit was justified (while saying “it would have been better if the plane was a military one or if it was a US military target”), and urging “revenge for all Muslims across the globe” against the U.S. What changed over the last decade that caused such a profound transformation in Awlaki? Does that question even need to be asked?


Never mind that Al Awlaki was recruiting guys for armed jihad overseas in the 1990s.

http://www.denverpost.com/commented/ci_14861059?source=commented-news

A former Denver Islamic Society community leader who asked not to be identified out of concern for his safety said that once, after al-Awlaki gave a series of sermons on jihad struggles around the world, al-Awlaki persuaded a Saudi Arabian student that he ought to join Muslim fighters in Bosnia.

The student approached the leader, who told him al-Awlaki's idea was nonsense. "I said: 'No! You need to have permission from your parents before you go to jihad. They sent you here for education.' " The leader said he confronted al-Awlaki in the mosque, warning him that "if you come close to anybody in my group, I'll throw you in the trash."

The Saudi student traveled anyway from Colorado to Bosnia, the leader said, and in 1999, he was killed in Chechnya.


He also claims Obama murdered Al Awlaki ONLY because al Awlaki was saying stuff that offended Obama, and that the killing of Al Awlaki had NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with his involvement in multiple operations to kill Americans.

What prompted my opposition from the start to the attempted killing of Awlaki was that it was very clear he was being targeted because of his anti-American sermons that were resonating among English-speaking Muslim youth (sermons which, whatever you think of them, are protected by the First Amendment), and not because he was a Terrorist operative. In other words, the US government was trying to murder one of its own citizens as punishment for his political and religious views that were critical of the government's policies, and not because of any actual crimes or warfare.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/11/nyt-obama-awlaki

"very clear" that he was not targeted for his terrorist activities?

Okay.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/02/28/uk.terror.verdict/index.html

A key part of the prosecution case was a series of heavily encrypted messages between al-Awlaki and Karim, in which al-Awlaki pressed for information about Karim's job and his knowledge of airport security.

"I pray that Allah may grant us a breakthrough through you ... can you please specify your role in the airline industry, how much access do you have to airports, what information do you have on the limitations and cracks in present airport security systems?"

Karim replied: "The kuffar (a derogatory term for non-Muslims) are planning to install full body scanners across UK airports. This allows them to see things under clothes."

But he warned al-Awlaki to be realistic: "You are probably hoping that I work at the airport, but the fact is I don't. I personally know two brothers, one who works in baggage handling at Heathrow and another who works in airport security. Both are good practising brothers and sympathize towards the cause of the mujahedeen."

Replying, al-Awlaki got straight to the point:

"Our highest priority is the U.S. Anything there, even on a smaller scale compared to what we may do in the UK, would be our choice. So the question is: with the people you have is it possible to get a package or person with a package on board a flight heading to the U.S.?"



Greenwald is a fucking liar. Al awlaki was giving hate sermons for years without being targeted for even arrest by the US, but when the multiple accounts of his involvement in a series of attacks and attempted attacks began to surface, the game changed.

Greenwald is a fucking liar, and one who would much rather give the benefit of the doubt to a traitorous rightwing fundamentalist terrorist than he would to President Obama.

that is who Glenn Greenwald is.

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Is Glenn Greenwald a liar? [View all] DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 OP
I'll pass. I'm afraid that if I said what I thought, MineralMan Feb 2015 #1
Like grandma always said, don't look a gift bump in the mouth. Or something about like that. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #2
Is that what your grandma said? MineralMan Feb 2015 #3
Our grandmothers should've run for office. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #4
My grandmother would have said, "To Hell with that noise." MineralMan Feb 2015 #5
Ha! Well done! Number23 Feb 2015 #47
He really make you look very bad, so I don't blame you. He has always been excellent at tearing sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #72
You are so right, Sabrina Oilwellian Feb 2015 #79
That's for sure. They made it a mission to go to his blog, and he let them, intending to be tough sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #80
Glenn Greenwald defending Bush from us liberal peaceniks... kfreed Jul 2015 #104
Glenn Greenwald - King of the Gish Gallop kfreed Jul 2015 #95
Koch Whore Glenn Greenwald (Propagandist, not a "Journalist") kfreed Jul 2015 #97
Glenn Greenwald lying on behalf of white supremacist Tom Tancredo (Colorado gubernatorial candidate) kfreed Jul 2015 #98
"In Which Glenn Greenwald Smears Me by Citing a Faked Graphic at a Far Right Hate Site" kfreed Jul 2015 #100
Greenwald: Liar: promoting another white supremacist kfreed Jul 2015 #103
To determine the truthiness of one's journalism, Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #6
That would be choice #2. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #7
You mean the Public Service award that is awarded to organizations, Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #8
I thank you for participating. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #9
I was getting around to it. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #12
Thanks for the links. I'll address each. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #14
Great response! n/t davekriss Feb 2015 #24
Thank you, DisgustipatedinCA. Octafish Feb 2015 #27
Hmmm...it got awfully quiet out.... truebluegreen Feb 2015 #34
Ykcutnek went on an unexpected vacation. Puglover Feb 2015 #37
Outstanding! truebluegreen Feb 2015 #41
It takes more than a suspension to keep a true maverick down. QC Feb 2015 #59
! Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #60
Oh Bobbi Puglover Feb 2015 #64
Meh, it fits. Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #65
Honestly I don't have a thing against you. Puglover Feb 2015 #78
As is probably another of their darlings. Puglover Feb 2015 #61
Generating fascist anti-Americanism around the globe kfreed Jul 2015 #96
No surprise to see a hit piece from that Kos blogger. Are you familiar with the history of that sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #75
I thought the question was of truthfulness not truthiness which is a made up term to TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #63
+1 treestar Feb 2015 #74
He's an advocate. moondust Feb 2015 #10
Fair point. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #11
I'd probably call it "advocacy journalism." moondust Feb 2015 #13
why does advocate on behalf of scumbag terrorists like anwar al awlaki. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #17
I'll reply to you once I'm in front of a real keyboard. Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #20
He repeatedly lied in his efforts to make Anwar Al-Awlaki a poor innocent geek tragedy Feb 2015 #15
Yep. nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #16
Greenwald is s a lying liar who lies. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #19
Where did Greenwald lie? Octafish Feb 2015 #25
I hadn't read that Greenwald article before. Thanks for brining it to my attention. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #29
That is an example of Greenwald lying. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #39
You need to completely read Greenwald's and Priest's articles. This is all addressed. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #40
Where did Priest write that the Obama administration tried to kill Awlaki in 2009? geek tragedy Feb 2015 #43
here you go: DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #46
That's a very weak defense of Greenwald's mendacity geek tragedy Feb 2015 #48
Doesn't really matter to me if he has lied a couple of times... NCTraveler Feb 2015 #18
He lied several times regarding his partner being held. I already posted links KittyWampus Feb 2015 #21
Greenwald is a liar by omission. Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #22
Fair enough. Now using that standard who are the honest journalists and media outlets? TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #62
You are correct Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #66
Let me simplify part 2. Do you assert there are politicians and business people that meet your TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #76
Is "ethically-challenged, self-aggrandizing prick" the same as "liar"? 11 Bravo Feb 2015 #23
No, not in this context or any other that I know of. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #31
I have no idea. To be honest I didn't really follow the whole Snowden/Greenwald saga. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #26
Who's Glenn Greenwald? nt. jschurchin Feb 2015 #28
Founding member of The Monkees, invented the corkscrew. Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #30
Thought that was Davey Nesmith or Mickey Tork? :P n/t Chan790 Feb 2015 #44
come to think of it, Tork (Torque?) would be a great name for the inventor of the corkscrew. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #45
He's very careful to not quite lie. jeff47 Feb 2015 #32
I appreciate the answer. I disagree with your conclusion, but there's no denying he's an advocate. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #33
Greenwald lying by ommission (how propaganda works) kfreed Jul 2015 #102
running 97% to 3% thus far DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #35
"Greenwaaaaaaaaaald!!!" whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #36
LOL! Puglover Feb 2015 #38
Greenwald is an opinion writer and not a journalist. Chan790 Feb 2015 #42
It's kind of difficult to catch Greenwald in an outright lie Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #49
Your post seems very similar to post #32 DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #50
That's the problem with "advocacy journalism" Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #68
Haven't seen you kick this in awhile... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #93
Sure. Post those links. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #94
Not difficult, just time-consuming to correct all of them kfreed Jul 2015 #99
A few more before leaving Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #51
r.e. the "out and out" lie DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #53
The onus is on Greenwald to *prove* it Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #55
Mahalo for all this compilation of GG's *********, Blue Tires! Cha Feb 2015 #91
I really don't know. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #52
Fair enough. Thank you for the reply. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #54
probably, 99.99% of humanity are liars to a degree. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2015 #56
We are all liars. And anyone who says otherwise.... Smarmie Doofus Feb 2015 #57
precisely! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #67
Why does an advocate get the right of omission and not telling Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #58
A few more... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #69
Good job. ucrdem Feb 2015 #71
Thank you SO MUCH for these links. betsuni Feb 2015 #89
Bookmarking this OP just for your links. nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #90
yeppers. ucrdem Feb 2015 #70
In all seriousness -- 55 DUers say GG has never been caught in dishonesty? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #73
Funny that Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #77
Is Greenwald a liar? Not necessarily. PragmaticLiberal Feb 2015 #81
Monday kick Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #82
Don't hold your breath. Andy823 Feb 2015 #86
Um. No proof has been posted. That's kind of what this thread is about. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #88
It's always surprising when you see how few shriekers there actually are. Marr Feb 2015 #83
I considered out conversation concluded when you told me the onus is on Greenwald... DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #84
I think you have me confused with someone else. Marr Feb 2015 #85
I'm sorry, Marr. I meant to reply to Blue_Tires. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #87
Oh no need-- I thought it must be a mispost or something. /nt Marr Feb 2015 #92
We get it, the supporters of the national security state don't like Greenwald. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #101
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