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In reply to the discussion: Is Glenn Greenwald a liar? [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)48. That's a very weak defense of Greenwald's mendacity
1) Since I don't have a pencil and paper to diagram the sentence for you:
As of several months ago, the CIA list included three US citizens, and an intelligence official said that Aulaqi's name has now been added."
"As of several months ago" is an adverbial phrase modifying the verb phrase "included three US citizens."
The sentence uses "now" to modify the clause "Aulaqi's name has NOW been added."
Given that the article was published in January 2010, "now" does not mean "several months ago."
It is similarly untrue that JSOC adding a name to a "High Value Target" constitutes an attempt to kill them.
As a threshold matter, putting a name on a list is not an attempt to kill someone. This should be clear. Shooting at someone is an attempt to kill them, as is putting arsenic in their coffee. Putting their name on a list, nope.
Going beyond that, the military "High Value Target" designation does not put them on a "kill list"--it doesn't even describe what action is to be taken. It describes the person's role and importance within an enemy organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-value_target
http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/new_pubs/jp1_02.pdf
high-value target: A target the enemy commander requires for successful completion of the mission. Also called HVT. See also high-payoff target; target.
And just to wrap this up:
target: an entity or object that performs a function for the adversary considered for engagement or other action.
So, what Priest wrote is that the JSOC late in 2009 designated Al Awlaki as an important person within the AQ command structure, and that in 2010 Priest wrote that his name "now" was added to the CIA's list.
Which again, is in no way, shape or form what Greenwald claims it is. It's explicitly not what he claimed.
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Like grandma always said, don't look a gift bump in the mouth. Or something about like that. nt
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#2
He really make you look very bad, so I don't blame you. He has always been excellent at tearing
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#72
That's for sure. They made it a mission to go to his blog, and he let them, intending to be tough
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#80
Glenn Greenwald lying on behalf of white supremacist Tom Tancredo (Colorado gubernatorial candidate)
kfreed
Jul 2015
#98
"In Which Glenn Greenwald Smears Me by Citing a Faked Graphic at a Far Right Hate Site"
kfreed
Jul 2015
#100
No surprise to see a hit piece from that Kos blogger. Are you familiar with the history of that
sabrina 1
Feb 2015
#75
I thought the question was of truthfulness not truthiness which is a made up term to
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#63
I hadn't read that Greenwald article before. Thanks for brining it to my attention.
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#29
You need to completely read Greenwald's and Priest's articles. This is all addressed.
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#40
Where did Priest write that the Obama administration tried to kill Awlaki in 2009?
geek tragedy
Feb 2015
#43
He lied several times regarding his partner being held. I already posted links
KittyWampus
Feb 2015
#21
Fair enough. Now using that standard who are the honest journalists and media outlets?
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#62
Let me simplify part 2. Do you assert there are politicians and business people that meet your
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#76
I have no idea. To be honest I didn't really follow the whole Snowden/Greenwald saga.
hrmjustin
Feb 2015
#26
come to think of it, Tork (Torque?) would be a great name for the inventor of the corkscrew. nt
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#45
I appreciate the answer. I disagree with your conclusion, but there's no denying he's an advocate.
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#33
Um. No proof has been posted. That's kind of what this thread is about.
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#88
I considered out conversation concluded when you told me the onus is on Greenwald...
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2015
#84
We get it, the supporters of the national security state don't like Greenwald.
BillZBubb
Jul 2015
#101