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Octafish

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110. BOOKMARK THIS.

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 01:41 PM

Feb 2015

I've asked you, repeatedly over the years, to show what you term my "propensity for promoting and legitimizing the work of noted bigots, racists, homophobes and conspiracy theorist lunatics. You're a guy who thinks white-nationalist Paul Craig Roberts and insane homophobe Wayne Madsen are credible, and appropriate sources for use on a progressive message board."

Seeing how you fail to actually show any of that, I want these to be in the record for all DU to see:

Where I quoted Roberts when he supported Don Siegelman:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022073759

Where I quoted Madsen recently to document the business links between Bush and bin Laden:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6059251

Where I first quoted Madsen on DU2 in 2003 (earlier examples exist, but none so illustrative):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x610051

Where you smear Naomi Klein, making me think the practice is your speciality:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5318151

You will note that I did not support any theory, smear, or lie; I only posted what these people wrote. And as far I as I knew or know, none of these people are anything like what you describe, SidDithers of DU.

What's a person called who repeats something that is not true, SidDithers of DU?

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Goldman Sachs CEO Key Investor in Hillary's Son-In-Law's Hedge Fund [View all] benz380 Feb 2015 OP

It's all legal like. Octafish Feb 2015 #1

One hand washes the other. n/t benz380 Feb 2015 #2

Well, you've gotten the cliches down pat, it seems. MineralMan Feb 2015 #22

Familiarity Breeds Corruption Octafish Feb 2015 #28

Yeah, and how many degrees of separation can you claim from anyone engaged in wrongdoing? stevenleser Feb 2015 #55

Seeing how repeal of Glass-Steagall cost America untold trillions... Octafish Feb 2015 #56

I see you evaded the question. Tells us all we need to know. nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #57

Who's ''us?'' And how many degrees of separation are needed to gain or lose one's integrity? Octafish Feb 2015 #59

Again, you evade the question. How many degrees of separation? nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #60

Who cares? It has nothing to do with the issue. Octafish Feb 2015 #62

It has everything to do with the issue, because tagging Hillary with this is stupid stevenleser Feb 2015 #66

It has everything to do with Hillary and Bill being millionaires. Octafish Feb 2015 #69

No, it doesn't, any more than the conduct of your third cousin twice removed stevenleser Feb 2015 #71

You know people by the people they hang out with. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #116

Great info. Thanks for the link. nt RiverLover Feb 2015 #78

Thank you. woo me with science Feb 2015 #80

you just keep on trying to sell that steve; maybe you'll find a buyer one day ND-Dem Feb 2015 #90

Not stupid at all. Bill and Hillary Clington tagged themselves with this. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #115

Oh. If you're asking me how many degrees of separation from me to the banksters, a lot. Octafish Feb 2015 #63

No, how much distance is there between you and anyone doing any wrongdoing stevenleser Feb 2015 #65

Like I wrote, none in my family. Octafish Feb 2015 #67

No one in your extended family has ever committed ANY kind of crime? stevenleser Feb 2015 #68

Why is that so hard for you to believe? Octafish Feb 2015 #70

Look up the concept of six degrees of separation. It will explain everything. Nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #72

He's mad because his point went absolutely nowhere. Rex Feb 2015 #83

The guy is relentlessly obtuse. Octafish Feb 2015 #85

Not surprising that self-appointed reporters think everyone is corrupt. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #118

nor mine. do you know a lot of criminals yourself, then? ND-Dem Feb 2015 #91

In my family, you have to look very, very far to find any kind of crime. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #117

the best form of separation DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #74

Lloyd Blankfein: "I held fundraisers for her." (HRC) antigop Feb 2015 #82

GOP/WallST atty:fine w/ Jeb or Hillary;Warren our worst nightmare. Divernan Feb 2015 #96

Wall Street Republicans' dark secret: Hillary Clinton 2016 RiverLover Feb 2015 #101

Probably quite a few when it comes to greed. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #114

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!!! Romulox Feb 2015 #104

My all time fave since we are on the subject Caretha Feb 2015 #119

+1 It's a cozy, elite club, woo me with science Feb 2015 #30

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. A whole family of grifters. Divernan Feb 2015 #50

Excellent post. nt woo me with science Feb 2015 #75

+100. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #92

Thank you for the heads-up, Divernan. Octafish Feb 2015 #102

And people wonder why some of us do not want Hillary to run. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #34

Some ideas are as old as dirt. Octafish Feb 2015 #61

^^^^^^^^^^^^ woo me with science Feb 2015 #79

NO GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MOONLIGHT FOR PRIVATE COMPANIES. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #89

Combine that with the swells going from NSA to private practice and back... Octafish Feb 2015 #103

And this: JDPriestly Feb 2015 #113

I heard his cousin was also best friends in elementary school with Chelsea's neighbor's uncle alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #3

Laugh at these links too then. benz380 Feb 2015 #5

These connections between bankers and politicians have been well documented for quite some time btrflykng9 Feb 2015 #32

Chelsea Clinton's Husband Suffers Massive Hedge Fund Loss On Greek Investment Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #4

And one of his major investors just happens to be Lloyd Blankfein. hedda_foil Feb 2015 #24

they are part of the players in game therory Ichingcarpenter Feb 2015 #25

Like father, like son ... GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #46

Absolutely. I spelled it out in post # 50. Divernan Feb 2015 #51

So what? nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #6

Yeah who gives a shit that politicians and banksters are in bed together. n/t benz380 Feb 2015 #7

So you are outraged that Chelsea Clinton married someone without getting your approval first? nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #8

Yeah no big deal that the undeclared Democratic candidate is in bed with the very people that ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #9

Hillary Clinton is sleeping with her son-in-law? MineralMan Feb 2015 #11

IF you say so, IDC who she sleeps with but if you do, have at it. ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #16

Well, see, you said she was "in bed with" someone. MineralMan Feb 2015 #18

Ahh your are a literalist then, OK ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #21

Cliches are tricky to use. You aren't using them well. MineralMan Feb 2015 #23

Your friend is trying--he/she is trying to bowl you over with his/her "vehicular!" MADem Feb 2015 #27

Well, I'm an expert on the English vehicular. MineralMan Feb 2015 #36

Now that entire post is a keeper.....for pure hilarity!!!! MADem Feb 2015 #26

I think the lack of response means he's trying to Dodge the issue. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #100

Yes, it's easy to get carried away! The best way to Ford that stream is to MADem Feb 2015 #111

You forgot to tell him to geek tragedy Feb 2015 #29

I call that, "The Call to Stupid," woo me with science Feb 2015 #33

Thank you for the fine compliment. MineralMan Feb 2015 #37

Actually, I consider what you do here woo me with science Feb 2015 #40

Good to know. Really. MineralMan Feb 2015 #41

"...for your little paycheck" What? MineralMan Feb 2015 #58

agree that mm's pretense of not knowing the meaning of 'in bed with' was manipulative == ND-Dem Feb 2015 #93

+1 Marr Feb 2015 #106

You really are unfamiliar with the "in bed with" idiom? n/t PoliticAverse Feb 2015 #38

Of course I'm familiar with that cliche. MineralMan Feb 2015 #39

here's what the man said" ND-Dem Feb 2015 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Feb 2015 #107

What specific personal relations and relevant careers of in-laws should be used to disqualify LanternWaste Feb 2015 #12

Well, apparently the sins of the son-in-law are now visited MineralMan Feb 2015 #19

You should delete that. Marr Feb 2015 #108

And a similar question, how many degrees of separation do you need from anyone accused of wrongdoing stevenleser Feb 2015 #54

Who is Hillary Clinton sleeping with? Is that what you're suggesting? MineralMan Feb 2015 #13

I know! It's all coincidence! woo me with science Feb 2015 #31

Is it safe to assume you'd react the same if this story was about a republican candidate's family? whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #44

Yes. Whom Chelsea Clinton marries is none of my--or your--fucking business. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #45

The implications go beyond the simple fact of who she married whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #47

No it really doesn't. It's just trashy gossip worthy of a tabloid. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #48

LOL Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #52

Normally, I'm willing to give some of these stories the benefit of the doubt when there's a lot of hughee99 Feb 2015 #10

Yeah, this is silly. Son in Law? Is that to what the anti-Hillary crowd has reduced themselves? stevenleser Feb 2015 #43

I'm not a Hillary fan, and even I think this is stupid. hughee99 Feb 2015 #49

It would seem he's not a very good hedge fund manager. pa28 Feb 2015 #14

Nothing to see here. It's not like all of us other progressives don't have Goldman investing in us. Scuba Feb 2015 #15

+100. and we all have friends and relatives who are crooks, too. (just not as successful at ND-Dem Feb 2015 #95

So he pays himself $2M/yr to lose his investor's money, while similar hedge funds made Faryn Balyncd Feb 2015 #17

Great post. woo me with science Feb 2015 #35

If Hillary is like my mother-in-law, this would be bad for the Goldman Sachs CEO FLPanhandle Feb 2015 #20

He should've followed in his MIL's footsteps and..... wolfie001 Feb 2015 #42

Mezvinsky Sr.'s victims included family, friends, & his own mother-in-law. Divernan Feb 2015 #98

I'm voting for Hillary anyways. wolfie001 Feb 2015 #112

The Mezvinskys are a colorful lot. AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #53

Better Believe It!... SidDithers Feb 2015 #64

Can't defend the indefensible, so smear the messenger. Octafish Feb 2015 #99

Well, you would certainly know about indefensible messengers, octafish of DU... SidDithers Feb 2015 #105

BOOKMARK THIS. Octafish Feb 2015 #110

makign sure Lloyd Blankfeld DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #73

Is Hillary's son-in-law running for office? n/t pnwmom Feb 2015 #76

isn't this an interesting little thread? grasswire Feb 2015 #77

It's All About Defending The Inevitable Front-Runner Who Hasn't Even Annouced Who's Setting Up... WillyT Feb 2015 #81

Ivan Pavlov would find them interesting. Rex Feb 2015 #84

+1 woo me with science Feb 2015 #86

Well, if you wanna be on the tee vee you gonna have to say the right things. Octafish Feb 2015 #87

Dick Scaife & his newspapers endorsed her last presidential run. Divernan Feb 2015 #97

+1 Marr Feb 2015 #109

kick for plutocracy woo me with science Feb 2015 #88

Impossible! nt NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #120