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Octafish

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16. Ray McGovern called the situation: ''J Edgar Hoover on Supercomputers''
Tue Feb 10, 2015, 10:36 AM
Feb 2015

Worse. The guys who got rid of Nixon -- and Frank Church -- have the latest gear.



J. Edgar Hoover With Supercomputers

by Ray McGovern
AntiWar.com, January 6, 2006

On Dec. 19, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Deputy Director of National Intelligence Gen. Mike Hayden held a press conference in which they once again misled the American people.

Gonzales and Hayden answered questions about reports that the National Security Agency (NSA), which Hayden directed from 1999 to 2005, was eavesdropping on Americans via a special program in violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The implications for privacy – and our system of checks and balances – are immense.

As long as he read from his prepared statement, Attorney General Gonzales did just fine with the press. He conceded that FISA requires a court order to authorize the surveillance the president ordered the NSA to undertake, and then hammered home the administration's "legal analysis:" the twin arguments that Congress' post-9/11 authorization of force and the president's power as commander in chief trump the legal constraints of FISA.

When the reporters' questions began, though, Gonzales faltered and twice spilled the beans. Asked why the administration decided to flout rather than amend FISA, choosing instead a "backdoor approach," Gonzales said:

"We have had discussions with Congress … as to whether or not FISA could be amended to allow us to adequately deal with this kind of threat, and we were advised that that would be difficult, if not impossible."

So they went ahead and did it anyway.

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[font color="green"]Another concern is that, among the groups of American citizens most likely to be sucked up by the NSA's vacuum cleaner – because of the nature of their work and their international calls/contacts – are members of Congress and journalists. A key question that raises its ugly head is this: If hundreds of calls and e-mails involving Americans are being intercepted each and every day, and juicy tidbits are learned about, say, prominent officials or other persons, there will be an almost irresistible temptation to make use of this information. Former FBI special agent Coleen Rowley, who for many years monitored court-authorized electronic surveillances and wiretaps relating to organized criminal and drug conspiracy groups, recently underscored how much one can learn about someone by listening in on his/her private communications. She reminds us that the blackmail potential is clear.[/font color]

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http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=8349



Hannah Arendt warned us where all this is going:



The goal of wholesale surveillance, [font color="green"]as (Hannah) Arendt wrote in “The Origins of Totalitarianism,” is not, in the end, to discover crimes, “but to be on hand when the government decides to arrest a certain category of the population.” [/font color]And because Americans’ emails, phone conversations, Web searches and geographical movements are recorded and stored in perpetuity in government databases, there will be more than enough “evidence” to seize us should the state deem it necessary. This information waits like a deadly virus inside government vaults to be turned against us. It does not matter how trivial or innocent that information is. In totalitarian states, justice, like truth, is irrelevant.

Chris Hedges, The Last Gasp of American Democracy

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And before that came this... Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #1
Ah yes, the famous "Chennault channel." hifiguy Feb 2015 #3
You know it Dont call me Shirley. And Parry was on the case. Octafish Feb 2015 #4
Johnson should have piped up! What a shame he kept his mouth shut! A much different (better) Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #6
''Treason'' was the word LBJ used. Octafish Feb 2015 #8
thanks for posting this! leveymg Feb 2015 #27
This is treason........ Historic NY Feb 2015 #28
Bookmarked. elias49 Feb 2015 #2
October Surprise figure and now Federal Judge Laurence SILBERMAN today... Octafish Feb 2015 #5
It's the PeeWee Herman defense "I know you are but what am I" Dont call me Shirley Feb 2015 #7
It really is. Octafish Feb 2015 #9
Wow - I missed that! bananas Feb 2015 #30
Please let me know if anyone forwards the WSJ article. Octafish Feb 2015 #31
Sad, but I think you are correct re DU more and more resembling corporate news. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #42
k & freakin r! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #10
“counter-narcotics programs in Central America were not a priority of CIA personnel..." Octafish Feb 2015 #15
think what Nixon could have done with today's surveillance... grasswire Feb 2015 #11
Ray McGovern called the situation: ''J Edgar Hoover on Supercomputers'' Octafish Feb 2015 #16
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Feb 2015 #12
'The Danger of NSA Spying on Members of Congress' Octafish Feb 2015 #17
Another interesting link. JEB Feb 2015 #18
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Thank you. woo me with science Feb 2015 #22
K&R for this informative and important thread. Scuba Feb 2015 #14
Laurence Silberman compared people who say Bush lied America into war to NAZIs. Octafish Feb 2015 #20
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K&R! Segami Feb 2015 #21
Republicans Still Denying Bush Lied About Iraq Octafish Feb 2015 #33
to the top with you! NuttyFluffers Feb 2015 #23
Real-Life 'National Treasure' -- in Reverse Octafish Feb 2015 #34
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #24
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So interesting Oilwellian Feb 2015 #25
Hmmm. I have a couple of copies of Parry's print-precursor to Consortium News... JHB Feb 2015 #26
You're in Rare Form tonight Octafish, love it when you get in the zone... :) KNR! 2banon Feb 2015 #29
For DU. Octafish Feb 2015 #32
A "Truth Machine" indeed! And I ALWAYS appreciate reading contributions from you.. 2banon Feb 2015 #36
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