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In reply to the discussion: President Kennedy wanted to keep USA out of Vietnam [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)52. Secret Government is why the pendulum won't swing back.
Who can hold the secret offices of government responsible when they use their power to spy on the People's representatives?
Russ Tice, Bush-Era Whistleblower, Claims NSA Ordered Wiretap Of Barack Obama In 2004
The Huffington Post | By Nick Wing
Posted: 06/20/2013
Russ Tice, a former intelligence analyst who in 2005 blew the whistle on what he alleged was massive unconstitutional domestic spying across multiple agencies, claimed Wednesday that the NSA had ordered wiretaps on phones connected to then-Senate candidate Barack Obama in 2004.
Speaking on "The Boiling Frogs Show," Tice claimed the intelligence community had ordered surveillance on a wide range of groups and individuals, including high-ranking military officials, lawmakers and diplomats.
"Here's the big one ... this was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois," he said. "You wouldn't happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It's a big white house in Washington, D.C. That's who they went after, and that's the president of the United States now."
Host Sibel Edmonds and Tice both raised concerns that such alleged monitoring of subjects, unbeknownst to them, could provide the intelligence agencies with huge power to blackmail their targets.
"I was worried that the intelligence community now has sway over what is going on," Tice said.
CONTINUED...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/20/russ-tice-nsa-obama_n_3473538.html
I feel for President Obama. This may be why Snowden wishes he'd come forward earlier.
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No he didn't or he wouldn't have escalated the war like he did during his presidency.
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2015
#3
Many of those who disagree with you (and me) begin their posts with the words "I believe." That
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#68
I think his decision making in 1963 warrants at least a debate on the matter.
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2015
#27
Remarks of Senator John F. Kennedy on Indochina before the Senate, Washington, D.C., April 6, 1954
Octafish
Feb 2015
#44
The George Bush Center for Intelligence is the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency
blkmusclmachine
Feb 2015
#13
Just before his assassination, President Kennedy ordered secret peace talks with Castro
Octafish
Feb 2015
#49
So when you can't find anything to support your POV, resort to condescension, YoungDemCA.
Octafish
Feb 2015
#67
All due respect, but the verdict of professional historians who have examined the
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#23
Since your extract mentions Kaiser's "American Tragedy" in its final paragraph, it is
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#76
We are now come full circle. If JFK was being fed info that led hiim to believe the
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#85
So Oliver Stone was right. That's what he said after his movie JFK came out. nt
Damansarajaya
Feb 2015
#26
Better yet, look up the video of Jack Ruby saying "If Adlai Stevenson had been VP..." N/t
roamer65
Feb 2015
#59
November 22, 1963 was a coup d'état masked by an assassination...plain and simple.
roamer65
Feb 2015
#60
JFK knew what he was getting into in Dallas. He had survived an attempt in Chicago...
Octafish
Feb 2015
#89
I have always suspected JFK was killed for his opposition to that war.
Special Prosciuto
Feb 2015
#64
Kennedy had too much potential to help the common people. There is even a rumor that he was
dissentient
Feb 2015
#65
Flying Saucer bullshit began in 1947, with the hallucinating "pilot" Kenneth Arnold
Special Prosciuto
Feb 2015
#66
John Aschcroft stopped flying commercial airliners in July 2001 based on a 'threat assessment.'
Octafish
Feb 2015
#87
I was actually looking up black market nuclear history as well as overall nuclear history
JonLP24
Feb 2015
#90