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In reply to the discussion: President Kennedy wanted to keep USA out of Vietnam [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)86. Peter Dale Scott did the yeoman's work on JFK and Vietnam issue.
McNamara - Taylor
PROPOSED STATEMENT
Oct 2, 1963
The security of South Vietnam remains vital to United States security. For this reason we adhere to the overriding objective of denying this country to communism and of suppressing the Viet Cong insurgency as promptly as possible.
Although we are deeply concerned by repressive practices, effective performance in the conduct of the war should be the determining factor in our relations with the GVN.[28]
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White House - Kennedy
ACTUAL STATEMENT
Oct. 2, 1963
The security of South Vietnam is a major interest of the United States as other free nations. We will adhere to our policy of working with the people and Government of South Vietnam to deny this country to communism and to suppress the externally stimulated and supported insurgency of the Viet Cong as promptly as possible. Effective performance in this undertaking is the central objective of our policy in South Vietnam.
While such practices have not yet significantly affected the war effort, they could do so in the future.
It remains the policy of the United States, in South Vietnam as in other parts of the world, to support the efforts of the people of that country to defeat aggression and to build a peaceful and free society.[29]
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White House - Johnson
NSAM 273
(SECRET)
NOV. 26, 1963
It remains the central object of the United States in South Vietnam to assist the people and Government of that country to win their contest against the externally directed and supported communist conspiracy. The test of all U.S. decisions and actions in this area should be the effectiveness of their contributions to this purpose.[30]
SOURCE: http://www.history-matters.com/essays/vietnam/KennedyVietnam1971/KennedyVietnam1971.htm
PROPOSED STATEMENT
Oct 2, 1963
The security of South Vietnam remains vital to United States security. For this reason we adhere to the overriding objective of denying this country to communism and of suppressing the Viet Cong insurgency as promptly as possible.
Although we are deeply concerned by repressive practices, effective performance in the conduct of the war should be the determining factor in our relations with the GVN.[28]
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White House - Kennedy
ACTUAL STATEMENT
Oct. 2, 1963
The security of South Vietnam is a major interest of the United States as other free nations. We will adhere to our policy of working with the people and Government of South Vietnam to deny this country to communism and to suppress the externally stimulated and supported insurgency of the Viet Cong as promptly as possible. Effective performance in this undertaking is the central objective of our policy in South Vietnam.
While such practices have not yet significantly affected the war effort, they could do so in the future.
It remains the policy of the United States, in South Vietnam as in other parts of the world, to support the efforts of the people of that country to defeat aggression and to build a peaceful and free society.[29]
---------------------------
White House - Johnson
NSAM 273
(SECRET)
NOV. 26, 1963
It remains the central object of the United States in South Vietnam to assist the people and Government of that country to win their contest against the externally directed and supported communist conspiracy. The test of all U.S. decisions and actions in this area should be the effectiveness of their contributions to this purpose.[30]
SOURCE: http://www.history-matters.com/essays/vietnam/KennedyVietnam1971/KennedyVietnam1971.htm
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No he didn't or he wouldn't have escalated the war like he did during his presidency.
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2015
#3
Many of those who disagree with you (and me) begin their posts with the words "I believe." That
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#68
I think his decision making in 1963 warrants at least a debate on the matter.
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2015
#27
Remarks of Senator John F. Kennedy on Indochina before the Senate, Washington, D.C., April 6, 1954
Octafish
Feb 2015
#44
The George Bush Center for Intelligence is the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency
blkmusclmachine
Feb 2015
#13
Just before his assassination, President Kennedy ordered secret peace talks with Castro
Octafish
Feb 2015
#49
So when you can't find anything to support your POV, resort to condescension, YoungDemCA.
Octafish
Feb 2015
#67
All due respect, but the verdict of professional historians who have examined the
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#23
Since your extract mentions Kaiser's "American Tragedy" in its final paragraph, it is
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#76
We are now come full circle. If JFK was being fed info that led hiim to believe the
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2015
#85
So Oliver Stone was right. That's what he said after his movie JFK came out. nt
Damansarajaya
Feb 2015
#26
Better yet, look up the video of Jack Ruby saying "If Adlai Stevenson had been VP..." N/t
roamer65
Feb 2015
#59
November 22, 1963 was a coup d'état masked by an assassination...plain and simple.
roamer65
Feb 2015
#60
JFK knew what he was getting into in Dallas. He had survived an attempt in Chicago...
Octafish
Feb 2015
#89
I have always suspected JFK was killed for his opposition to that war.
Special Prosciuto
Feb 2015
#64
Kennedy had too much potential to help the common people. There is even a rumor that he was
dissentient
Feb 2015
#65
Flying Saucer bullshit began in 1947, with the hallucinating "pilot" Kenneth Arnold
Special Prosciuto
Feb 2015
#66
John Aschcroft stopped flying commercial airliners in July 2001 based on a 'threat assessment.'
Octafish
Feb 2015
#87
I was actually looking up black market nuclear history as well as overall nuclear history
JonLP24
Feb 2015
#90