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Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
14. Actually, I'm very serious.
Wed Mar 11, 2015, 09:24 PM
Mar 2015

Tell me who has ever been convicted of the Logan Act. I'll tell you the answer if you don't know, NOBODY. Since it's passed, during the eighteenth century, plenty of members of congress have gone all over and spoken to leaders of other nations. But let's pretend that it's a cut and dried as you pretend. Go ahead. Arrest Cotton. Arrest them all. The Constitution allows the Senators to be arrested for Felonies. So arrest them.

Then act shocked when armed lunatics take to the streets within weeks of this action. Pretend that you had no idea that arresting a Senator would cause such a response. Perhaps you didn't take a good look at the Bundy Ranch. Let's take a look shall we?



Take a look at that picture. Those rifles are almost certainly semi-automatic versions of the rifles the Federal Agents have. Do you see the vest the fellow facing the camera on the right has on? That is probably, but not certainly, a type of vest containing bullet proof panels rated to stop rifle rounds.



This is what they wanted. This is the dream they had, and they came far too close for my tastes.

How about what's going on in Texas regarding the Border? The lunatics are running around in the wilderness down there armed and armored.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Photos-show-border-militias-moving-across-Texas-5647487.php#photo-6643819

Now it might be a bunch of harmless guys hanging around on weekends pretending that they're doing patrols.



But it might be that they are hoping to increase their numbers, and increase their status among the population.

Oh why worry, there can't be that many of them. President Obama won the re-election with 51.3% of the vote man. http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism

939 known hate groups according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Even if every group has a measly ten members, we're within spitting distance of ten thousand people. That doesn't include militia types by the way. That's the neo-Nazi, skinhead, white supremacist groups. As for Militia groups? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/05/southern-poverty-law-center-militias-gun-control/1964411/

So do you think that these groups, and their supporters will sit back idly while a Senator is arrested? Your plan of Coercion of the Senator is not only illegal, but if the Senator goes out and tells the world about it could well trigger the violent responses I'm warning about. Look how much anger percolated to the surface over the idea that one kind of a dozen different types of ammunition might get banned. Just one type, out of the many different types. Copper jacketed, coated, hollow points, as well as aluminium, and other alloy coated rounds would still have been legal, but the RW went ape. Do you think that they'll do nothing while their great fear, a move by President Obama to arrest the Senate Republicans goes on right in front of them? Even arresting one?

My friend, you underestimate your opponent. You think they are a bunch of mouth breathing idiots. Yet, they manage to defeat us in far too many elections. They outmaneuver us in far too many public opinion polls. Stop pretending they are as stupid as you wish they were, and take some time to really examine them. If you possess a modicum of wisdom within your body, you will realize the danger that exists in triggering them.

But let's return to the letter. What harm has been done? Seriously? The Republicans look like asses. If we do nothing, they will continue to look like asses and we stand a fair chance of taking the Senate Back. If we overreact and come down like the hammer of an angry deity on these disloyal treasonous bastards, we will find that we are not the all powerful angry deities of our dreams.

If you are not wise enough to learn about your opponent before taking action that is nearly guaranteed to cause a dramatic result we won't like, then pray that those in power are wiser than you are. Because if they aren't, this summer will be most uncomfortable for a lot of our citizens who will be caught in the middle of this crap. When the Military reports they are unable to restore order, what do we do then? Form our own militias? Get military weapons and form the Democratic Army of America?

Far too many of these militia types are veterans. They know how to fight, they were trained by the military. They feel betrayed, abandoned, and if you start arresting Republicans they will feel threatened.

Oh and there was an idea here at the time that the Bundy Militia types were all wannabe toughs who would shit their pants the second a cop looked at them in anything like a harsh manner. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/09/1305724/-The-Las-Vegas-murders-Cliven-Bundy-the-militia-movement-and-the-NRA

Yep, they're harmless. Shake a feather pillow at them and they'll shit their pants.

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