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In reply to the discussion: A Neocon Admits the Plan to Bomb Iran [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)20. What the Reichsmarschall said also can apply to DU.
Naturally the common people dont want war. But after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and its always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -- Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring in conversation with prison psychologist and U.S. Army Captain Gustave M. Gilbert.
The connections to PNAC become clear as we run up to more war for profit in Iran or Ukraine or the Russias.

How we -- "We" as in We the People, the Government of the United States -- got to thinking this way:
Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception
Many neoconservatives like Paul Wolfowitz are disciples of a philosopher who believed that the elite should use deception, religious fervor and perpetual war to control the ignorant masses.
By Jim Lobe / AlterNet May 18, 2003
What would you do if you wanted to topple Saddam Hussein, but your intelligence agencies couldn't find the evidence to justify a war?
A follower of Leo Strauss may just hire the "right" kind of men to get the job done people with the intellect, acuity, and, if necessary, the political commitment, polemical skills, and, above all, the imagination to find the evidence that career intelligence officers could not detect.
The "right" man for Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, suggests Seymour Hersh in his recent New Yorker article entitled 'Selective Intelligence,' was Abram Shulsky, director of the Office of Special Plans (OSP) an agency created specifically to find the evidence of WMDs and/or links with Al Qaeda, piece it together, and clinch the case for the invasion of Iraq.
Like Wolfowitz, Shulsky is a student of an obscure German Jewish political philosopher named Leo Strauss who arrived in the United States in 1938. Strauss taught at several major universities, including Wolfowitz and Shulsky's alma mater, the University of Chicago, before his death in 1973.
Strauss is a popular figure among the neoconservatives. Adherents of his ideas include prominent figures both within and outside the administration. They include 'Weekly Standard' editor William Kristol; his father and indeed the godfather of the neoconservative movement, Irving Kristol; the new Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, Stephen Cambone, a number of senior fellows at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (home to former Defense Policy Board chairman Richard Perle and Lynne Cheney), and Gary Schmitt, the director of the influential Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which is chaired by Kristol the Younger.
Strauss' philosophy is hardly incidental to the strategy and mindset adopted by these men as is obvious in Shulsky's 1999 essay titled "Leo Strauss and the World of Intelligence (By Which We Do Not Mean Nous)" (in Greek philosophy the term nous denotes the highest form of rationality). As Hersh notes in his article, Shulsky and his co-author Schmitt "criticize America's intelligence community for its failure to appreciate the duplicitous nature of the regimes it deals with, its susceptibility to social-science notions of proof, and its inability to cope with deliberate concealment." They argued that Strauss's idea of hidden meaning, "alerts one to the possibility that political life may be closely linked to deception. Indeed, it suggests that deception is the norm in political life, and the hope, to say nothing of the expectation, of establishing a politics that can dispense with it is the exception."
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http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/leo_strauss%27_philosophy_of_deception
In a way, the neocons are so very right, Enthusiast. They believe, as long as a few people -- their people, the ones who consider themselves "superior" to other human beings based on anything from wealth to skin tone -- remain alive after their wars, they will consider it a "win."
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So Bezo sets up a "right to happiness" strawman and knocks it down to justify his love of money?
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#6
He's a Libertarian. Socially liberal, but Right on issues like war and economics.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#9
I'd say, there's no real line between D and R on foreign policy, now, but where is Bezos on this?
leveymg
Mar 2015
#10
We should ask Colon Powell if he has any evidence that Iran has pipes that look like irregation
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#12
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that these neocons have had Iran as their
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#5
People like Leo Strauss and Paul Wolfowitz, who believe they are so clever and intelligent, are
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#43
Because it't the only Islamic country in the ME not under the boot of the US military n/t
eridani
Mar 2015
#19
I am sick of this war nonsense. I am sick of these war makers. Their minds are poisoned with
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#21
Essential knowledge: look up "Project for a New American Century" aka PNAC
Man from Pickens
Mar 2015
#30
And when the last drug cocktails for lethal injections are dispensed, these are the same fucks that
lonestarnot
Mar 2015
#35
''War with Iran is probably our best option'' is what the Washington Post said.
Octafish
Mar 2015
#46