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Octafish

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27. They stand to make a killing off death and suffering.

Reply to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #21)

Mon Mar 16, 2015, 08:10 PM

Mar 2015

Ray McGovern in 2008:

...I am remembering how I was pilloried on June 16, 2005, immediately after Congressman John Conyers' rump-Judiciary Committee hearing in the bowels of the Capitol, for a candid answer to a question from one of his colleagues; i. e., if the invasion of Iraq was not about WMD, and not about non-existent ties between Iraq and al-Qaeda, then why did we attack?

In answer, I used the acronym OIL. O for oil; I for Israel; and L for Logistics, meaning the military bases deemed by neoconservatives as necessary to protect both. Neither the House members present nor the media people seemed to have any problem with oil and military bases as factors-in itself an interesting commentary.

However, the suggestion that one main motive was an attempt to make that part of the Middle East safer for Israel (yes, folks, the neocons really thought that attacking Iraq would do that) -- well, that was anathema.

As it is anathema today to suggest that this is still one of the main reasons, besides oil, that Elliott Abrams, other neocons -- not to mention Vice President Dick Cheney and his team -- insist we must stay, Maliki and his associates be damned. (See the cartoon in the Washington Times today showing Maliki and words telling him "We are NOT leaving.&quot

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http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/07/17/obama-mccain-allergic-new-iraq-reality

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