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In reply to the discussion: A Neocon Admits the Plan to Bomb Iran [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)33. The Pitfalls of Peace

Really. Who would benefit most from wars without end for profits without cease?
The Pitfalls of Peace
The Lack of Major Wars May Be Hurting Economic Growth
Tyler Cowen
The New York Times, JUNE 13, 2014
The continuing slowness of economic growth in high-income economies has prompted soul-searching among economists. They have looked to weak demand, rising inequality, Chinese competition, over-regulation, inadequate infrastructure and an exhaustion of new technological ideas as possible culprits.
An additional explanation of slow growth is now receiving attention, however. It is the persistence and expectation of peace.
The world just hasnt had that much warfare lately, at least not by historical standards. Some of the recent headlines about Iraq or South Sudan make our world sound like a very bloody place, but todays casualties pale in light of the tens of millions of people killed in the two world wars in the first half of the 20th century. Even the Vietnam War had many more deaths than any recent war involving an affluent country.
Counterintuitive though it may sound, the greater peacefulness of the world may make the attainment of higher rates of economic growth less urgent and thus less likely. This view does not claim that fighting wars improves economies, as of course the actual conflict brings death and destruction. The claim is also distinct from the Keynesian argument that preparing for war lifts government spending and puts people to work. Rather, the very possibility of war focuses the attention of governments on getting some basic decisions right whether investing in science or simply liberalizing the economy. Such focus ends up improving a nations longer-run prospects.
It may seem repugnant to find a positive side to war in this regard, but a look at American history suggests we cannot dismiss the idea so easily. Fundamental innovations such as nuclear power, the computer and the modern aircraft were all pushed along by an American government eager to defeat the Axis powers or, later, to win the Cold War. The Internet was initially designed to help this country withstand a nuclear exchange, and Silicon Valley had its origins with military contracting, not todays entrepreneurial social media start-ups. The Soviet launch of the Sputnik satellite spurred American interest in science and technology, to the benefit of later economic growth.
War brings an urgency that governments otherwise fail to summon. For instance, the Manhattan Project took six years to produce a working atomic bomb, starting from virtually nothing, and at its peak consumed 0.4 percent of American economic output. It is hard to imagine a comparably speedy and decisive achievement these days.
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Living in a largely peaceful world with 2 percent G.D.P. growth has some big advantages that you dont get with 4 percent growth and many more war deaths. Economic stasis may not feel very impressive, but its something our ancestors never quite managed to pull off. The real questions are whether we can do any better, and whether the recent prevalence of peace is a mere temporary bubble just waiting to be burst.
Tyler Cowen is a professor of economics at George Mason University.
SOURCE: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/upshot/the-lack-of-major-wars-may-be-hurting-economic-growth.html?_r=0
He's making friends in all the right places, cough, Koch.
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So Bezo sets up a "right to happiness" strawman and knocks it down to justify his love of money?
Fred Sanders
Mar 2015
#6
He's a Libertarian. Socially liberal, but Right on issues like war and economics.
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#9
I'd say, there's no real line between D and R on foreign policy, now, but where is Bezos on this?
leveymg
Mar 2015
#10
We should ask Colon Powell if he has any evidence that Iran has pipes that look like irregation
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#12
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that these neocons have had Iran as their
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#5
People like Leo Strauss and Paul Wolfowitz, who believe they are so clever and intelligent, are
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#43
Because it't the only Islamic country in the ME not under the boot of the US military n/t
eridani
Mar 2015
#19
I am sick of this war nonsense. I am sick of these war makers. Their minds are poisoned with
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#21
Essential knowledge: look up "Project for a New American Century" aka PNAC
Man from Pickens
Mar 2015
#30
And when the last drug cocktails for lethal injections are dispensed, these are the same fucks that
lonestarnot
Mar 2015
#35
''War with Iran is probably our best option'' is what the Washington Post said.
Octafish
Mar 2015
#46