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In reply to the discussion: 'Progressive' Coalition for Fast Track and TPP Appears from Nowhere [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)52. Reagan's PR people made ''Liberal'' the target.
Mussolini did the same thing in the 20's. In between, someone removed the US liberal leadership.
It's hard to get the word out about that, sad to report, because "Conservatives" control, own and operate the media, lock stock and barrel.
Speaking of Capitalism's Invisible Army:
THE CIAS MOP-UP MAN: L.A. TIMES REPORTER CLEARED STORIES WITH AGENCY BEFORE PUBLICATION
BY KEN SILVERSTEIN
The Intercept, 9/4/14
A prominent national security reporter for the Los Angeles Times routinely submitted drafts and detailed summaries of his stories to CIA press handlers prior to publication, according to documents obtained by The Intercept.
Email exchanges between CIA public affairs officers and Ken Dilanian, now an Associated Press intelligence reporter who previously covered the CIA for the Times, show that Dilanian enjoyed a closely collaborative relationship with the agency, explicitly promising positive news coverage and sometimes sending the press office entire story drafts for review prior to publication. In at least one instance, the CIAs reaction appears to have led to significant changes in the story that was eventually published in the Times.
Im working on a story about congressional oversight of drone strikes that can present a good opportunity for you guys, Dilanian wrote in one email to a CIA press officer, explaining that what he intended to report would be reassuring to the public about CIA drone strikes. In another, after a series of back-and-forth emails about a pending story on CIA operations in Yemen, he sent a full draft of an unpublished report along with the subject line, does this look better? In another, he directly asks the flack: You wouldnt put out disinformation on this, would you?

Dilanians emails were included in hundreds of pages of documents that the CIA turned over in response to two FOIA requests seeking records on the agencys interactions with reporters. They include email exchanges with reporters for the Associated Press, Washington Post, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and other outlets. In addition to Dilanians deferential relationship with the CIAs press handlers, the documents show that the agency regularly invites journalists to its McLean, Va., headquarters for briefings and other events. Reporters who have addressed the CIA include the Washington Posts David Ignatius, the former ombudsmen for the New York Times, NPR, and Washington Post, and Fox News Brett Baier, Juan Williams, and Catherine Herridge.
Dilanian left the Times to join the AP last May, and the emails released by the CIA only cover a few months of his tenure at the Times. They show that in June 2012, shortly after 26 members of congress wrote a letter to President Obama saying they were deeply concerned about the drone program, Dilanian approached the agency about story that he pitched as a good opportunity for the government.
The letter from lawmakers, which was sent in the wake of a flurry of drone strikes that had reportedly killed dozens of civilians, suggested there was no meaningful congressional oversight of the program. But Dilanian wrote that he had been told differently by people I trust. He added:
Not only would such a story be reassuring to the public, I would think, but it would also be an opportunity to explore the misinformation about strikes that sometimes comes out of local media reports. Its one thing for you to say three killed instead of 15, and its another for congressional aides from both parties to back you up. Part of what the story will do, if you could help me bring it to fruition, is to quote congressional officials saying that great care is taken to avoid collateral damage and that the reports of widespread civilian casualties are simply wrong.
Of course, journalists routinely curry favor with government sources (and others) by falsely suggesting that they intend to amplify the official point of view. But the emails show that Dilanian really meant it.
CONTINUED...
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/04/former-l-times-reporter-cleared-stories-cia-publication/
Guy still has a job in journalism, unlike a bunch of my friends who actually did their jobs and told the truth, which is the Liberal thing to do.
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I wonder how many progressives this will fool. Had me going for a minute. I just about
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#15
I wouldn't say simply... I'm damn proud of calling myself liberal. I know the rw wants it to be
cui bono
Mar 2015
#30
The American workers' wages have been on the decline for decades now. Just how is international
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#16
Doing nothing -- and letting other countries capture trade agreements -- ain't gonna help.
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#22
The only people these trade agreements help are wealthy business owners. Thanks but no thanks.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#25
Corporations know they can get away with treating Americans workers worse than other countries.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#44
It probably won't get fast-track. But tell me something -- If you were the Japanese government or
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#21
You obviously haven't read how dispute resolution work. They only affect trade disputes, like
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#102
If there is enough opposition among Japanese government, they won't ratify it. I bet they do.
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#104
Your "belief" that the final draft will contain some positive aspects is based on what?
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#24
Obama has indicated why he's involved in these talks. I believe it could be in our best interest.
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#35
If your argument is that the TPP will help American industries, I agree. But it won't help workers.
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#47
I didn't say TPP is all that needed. Sorry, we can't solve all the issues in one post.
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#73
It's up to the person selling the product to convince the consumer (the 99%) that the product
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#84
It doesn't pass the logic test to say that although those portions leaked or revealed
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#89
It's your opinion it's damaging. As another poster pointed out, European countries have been
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#93
You have no idea of how bad things might be without NAFTA. I believe Paul Krugman, when he said
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#38
Yeah, it would be good for those business owners. Doubtful it would good for the workers of that
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#46
Now that is short-sighted. If the business isn't doing relatively well, you sure aren't
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#57
I'm so tired of hearing the argument that if business owners don't get want they want there
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#60
It's a two way street. You just naturally assume Nutcase is a slave driver. I don't.
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#63
I'm done arguing with you. I think it is pretty clear you side with business owners rather than
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#65
I think a lot more folks are satisfied with their jobs than you think. But, I agree there are
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#69
No, you sound like the 1%ers when we start talking about people in other countries.
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#85
Well then we have something in common because you sound like the 1%ers when it comes to
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#87
The vast majority of workers have a living wage. Agree somethingneeds to be done for those who don't
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#94
no, the vast majority of workers do not have a living wage. Wages have been stagnant for decades and
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#98
You never explained how a free trade agreement - NAFTA - has helped American workers. n/t
cui bono
Mar 2015
#107
The person you are quoting from "Nutcase Helmets" is the founder and owner.
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#49
If the head of Costco had written an article like that, would you still be posting such stuff?
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#58
Maybe someone from Oregon will offer some insight, before we just assume he abuses his labor force.
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#59
And we were doing so well to. I didn't say that he "abuses his labor force". But he didn't even say
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#80
I suspect he could use Vietnam now if he wanted. That's the thing, this trend ain't gonna
Hoyt
Mar 2015
#82
If there were environmentalists, unions, citizen groups negotiating, but corps only? NO!!
on point
Mar 2015
#51
"many were wrong about Obama gutting social security, approving the pipeline, supporting net neutr"
Hissyspit
Mar 2015
#56
The DINOs already had started this name grab with the "Progressive" Policy Institute "Think Tank"...
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#7
So, Third Way "Democrats" have a new moniker. They can run, but they can't hide.
blkmusclmachine
Mar 2015
#11
I'm not afraid of the label socialist, but I just bet Third Wayers would be.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#20
At least as I see it, American progressives are more democrats interested in social issues
HereSince1628
Mar 2015
#27
I share that view. You also can't have social progress without spending money
HereSince1628
Mar 2015
#41
I think some people think that if you support one issue that is progressive, then
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#28
They are progressively more right wing, that's about the extent of their progressivism.
cui bono
Mar 2015
#34