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In reply to the discussion: There is no way to reconcile the TPP with helping working Americans [View all]treestar
(82,383 posts)152. I'd be against your first paragraph alone
But where does the TPP provide for this? People need to be able to point to that language when it finally comes out. Reminds me of asking righties to find the death panels in the ACA, and they never could point to the part of the statute that actually provided for them. At best they came up with a section where it said people should get counseling on living wills and the like.
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There is no way to reconcile the TPP with helping working Americans [View all]
MannyGoldstein
Mar 2015
OP
Not just the country anymore, global free trade is here and we will eat our serving of it
Rex
Mar 2015
#1
TPP is a Nation Destroyer. And that's why Obama and his pals have desperately tried to hide
blkmusclmachine
Mar 2015
#3
The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians That Own And Control Us
cantbeserious
Mar 2015
#227
Hillary Clinton was an architect for TPP and they want me to vote for her. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
Katashi_itto
Mar 2015
#4
Do you have any links to this? I googled "Hillary tpp architect" and came up with nothing direct
uponit7771
Mar 2015
#271
let me be the first to congratulate you on another 300+ recommended post.
Old and In the Way
Mar 2015
#5
FDR and JFK were both 1% by your definition. You need to understand it is a frame of mind before
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#191
At some point in her life Hillary Clinton spent time and energy for a Republican to be elected.
stillwaiting
Mar 2015
#104
No matter what happens, we will hang in there together. Even if it came down to just you and me.
Rex
Mar 2015
#39
Mathews also called Bernie a relic from the 60s so do not give him too much credit.
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#37
Given that our President has already forced three Bush "free" trade agreements
MannyGoldstein
Mar 2015
#38
I am so sick of the he is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers mentality
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#45
Finally, WE THE PEOPLE, (thanks to Wikileaks) get to know as many details as POTUS.
Luminous Animal
Mar 2015
#12
Don't forget that the overwhelming opposition to the TPP forced them to finally 'allow' some members
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#29
I trust the Democrats, like Ron Wyden and Elizabeth Warren who have been warning us about
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#27
It does not take a scholar to know that a treaty that subordinates our laws to a tribunal judged by
Vincardog
Mar 2015
#54
Ignore the point and post your spin. Do you support the TTP? IF so why do you think Corporations
Vincardog
Mar 2015
#59
While you are waiting they are destroying democracy. Your complacency is astounding.
Vincardog
Mar 2015
#64
It is also amusing to watch the reliable "outrage-squashers" poo-poo any and
morningfog
Mar 2015
#94
When it is all a done deal, the poo-poo-ers will say we have to wait toi see how its implemented.
morningfog
Mar 2015
#121
Such a "writer" that could take on such an OP, should have a complete mastery of italics
Dragonfli
Mar 2015
#129
Sweet. You'll be able to know its content four years after its been in effect
LondonReign2
Mar 2015
#115
Please tell us why you are in favor of allowing tobacco companies to sue governments for
eridani
Mar 2015
#69
You spoke about giving TPP a chance, and it strongly enhances the ability of corporations--
eridani
Mar 2015
#72
You said that no merely literate and rational adult could possibly undertstand the leaked info
eridani
Mar 2015
#77
Then you really didn't mean this? "Who knew that DU was so full of experts on international law!?"
eridani
Mar 2015
#255
I like the pivot from "you haven't seen the TPP" to "you can't possibly understand it!"
morningfog
Mar 2015
#92
Yes, the word salad is pretty obvious, as is the back-tracking and deflection.
djean111
Mar 2015
#97
Most treaties are negotiated in secret. It's the final product that gets voted on.
randome
Mar 2015
#141
Some people are smarter than others, intuitively understanding what a lifetime of denial cannot teach
WillTwain
Mar 2015
#139
This is the best that anyone that supports the TPP can offer in the way of
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#146
That is a rock and a hard place, ain't it. We lose our Democracy either way...
Luminous Animal
Mar 2015
#13
What does that have to do with a treaty that savagely attacks the 99%?nt
MannyGoldstein
Mar 2015
#14
What it has to do with the TPP is that both issues are equally important and we may end up having
jwirr
Mar 2015
#20
Isn't that what a discussion board is all about? I have never hidden the fact that I do not think we
jwirr
Mar 2015
#23
If I must awaken by electing a R then I will awake to the death of my disabled daughter because
jwirr
Mar 2015
#113
That is certainly your right to do so. As is my right to do otherwise.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#66
Oh I agree but we act as if these issues are not all hooked together. They started with raygun and
jwirr
Mar 2015
#114
As I have said if voting for a Democrat no matter what is what you feel is best then do so.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2015
#178
No we can't, so we need a GREAT DEMOCRAT to run for the WH so we can go out and enthusiastically
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#32
I don't think that any of our good Democrats support this POS, right? I mean, yanno?
NYC_SKP
Mar 2015
#15
Here is Andrew Raposa, Professor Emeritus at Massachusetts State University in Westfield Westfield
Rex
Mar 2015
#34
The fact that Asian-made merchandise is just about the only thing available to purchase . . .
markpkessinger
Mar 2015
#62
What I support is refusing to allow corporate motherfuckers to sue democratically elected--
eridani
Mar 2015
#70
Corporations challenging any democratically determined law should not be allowed, period n/t
eridani
Mar 2015
#84
If that were true, why the skyrocketing trade deficits with signatory countries in other
eridani
Mar 2015
#154
Has a single politician spoken about a basic income/living wage/negative income tax?
stillwaiting
Mar 2015
#91
Why aren't people esp. here discussing this looming reality. I saw the 2013 Oxford Martin report
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#197
Basic income will be brought up by only Bernie as you say and it's critical to discuss now.
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#282
The "from Asia" part isn't what most Americans care about having as a part of that statement...
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#119
TPP= Toilet Paper Party AND Trans Pacific Partnership- truth! Shumer supports the increase of
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#279
Yep, we need to sell more of these at rallies. TPP=Toilet Paper Party & Trans Pacific Partnership
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#280
Indeed! Put that up in posts on DU now re 'TPP', the real bipartisan, global 1% corporate
appalachiablue
Mar 2015
#283
And its a CRAPPY reality pushed on to us by the 1% that can and SHOULD be undone!
cascadiance
Mar 2015
#276
They have been disseminated and include (incredibly) that corporate tribunals are there to favor
Dragonfli
Mar 2015
#132
+1,000,000,000. And, I guess a Brazilian wax. Which is what we are getting, really.
djean111
Mar 2015
#102
How so? "The TPP is yet another awful assault against the 99% by the wealthy and their paid help in
pampango
Mar 2015
#148
I find it absolutely amazing that there are those that, when faced with information regarding
Dragonfli
Mar 2015
#126
You are wasting your efforts with me, I can read so I will not be convinced to ignore
Dragonfli
Mar 2015
#130
It appears rather axiomatic to me, care to explain how you reach such an odd conclusion? /nt
Dragonfli
Mar 2015
#162
It will affect working people as he suggests, so, does it matter if he is some sort of
Dragonfli
Mar 2015
#166
True, it will affect working people ... My point is I don't think the OP speaks for working people
uponit7771
Mar 2015
#168
I can only speak for myself, but I assure you it is this sort of corporate trade deal that is an
Dragonfli
Mar 2015
#170
Weren't the other predictions regarding Obama and deals non eventful too!? I mean like the
uponit7771
Mar 2015
#269
OK, beyond Obama the issue is still the same... too many calls of Wolf on here for
uponit7771
Mar 2015
#277
TPP will turn the keys to the country and the 50 states over to multinationals with no
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#165
Our system is thoroughly broken & owned by an unfettered oligarchy bent on ruling the world.
mother earth
Mar 2015
#202
It isn't complicated. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and many more Democrats
cheapdate
Mar 2015
#243
No shit. "TPP contains a provision for bailing out derivative losses."
woo me with science
Mar 2015
#285
ok, All of the real progressives have convinced me...I am voting Republican for the 1st time since72
Old and In the Way
Mar 2015
#287