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marym625

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59. from your lips. ...

Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:23 PM

Mar 2015

Though I don't believe in God.

I was speaking to someone the other day, a Republican who is liberal on social values. (I know, a strange beast) and she said that she now believes that the Republicans care about nothing but money. Took years but I think their shady dealings are starting to be known.

As far as the TPP, these people that tell us not to jump to conclusions are doing exactly that. And considering what happened with the budget in December, it's not a jump to think President Obama doesn't have our back when it comes to money and corporations

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TPP so bad even the US congress is shocked [View all] marmar Mar 2015 OP

Aaaaand - this is just one of twenty-eight corporate-written chapters. djean111 Mar 2015 #1

I wish Obama would come out against this, he would have to betray long time supporters NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #2

um, you do realize he is strongly in favor of it, and wants to fasttrack it to prevent discussion, magical thyme Mar 2015 #5

He's been for this since day 1, working on it (with Hillary) & only didn't try fast track sooner RiverLover Mar 2015 #6

Don't forget that his Key Benefactor in running for Senate/Pres. was Penny Pritzger... KoKo Mar 2015 #7

Secy. of Commerce Penny Pritzker of Chicago, Hyatt Hotel heir & associated with Superior Bank appalachiablue Mar 2015 #56

There has been no indication that Obama has any problem with this. So now it's up to Congress sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #11

This is his bill, why would he disown it? lark Mar 2015 #24

It is necessary to hold the President's feet to the fire. He said it. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #47

On the wrong track? raindaddy Mar 2015 #93

I was trying to measure my words as to be considerate of the person I was responding to. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #94

I understand E raindaddy Mar 2015 #95

K/R Jack Rabbit Mar 2015 #3

There are several DUers still defending TPP because POTUS won't screw us! Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #4

Those people are willfully ignorant. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2015 #12

Not ignorant. Operatives and fanboys. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #85

Faith can be a dangerous thing. n/t christx30 Mar 2015 #14

Faith, historically speaking, is one of the most dangerous of all human qualities. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #49

Yep, and calling us every name in the book for being skeptical of the damn thing. arcane1 Mar 2015 #32

"How do you even know what's in it?" ybbor Mar 2015 #44

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #48

from your lips. ... marym625 Mar 2015 #59

Okay. NOW how about the fact that Obama's pushing for it? FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #8

I am assuming that they could even sue to override our environmental and labor laws. jwirr Mar 2015 #9

You are absolutely right... gregcrawford Mar 2015 #25

That's exactly what it's saying. lark Mar 2015 #29

Profit over people? The M$M's media blackout of this Wikileaks story prevents the Pres. from appalachiablue Mar 2015 #60

Loud quacking is being heard lark Mar 2015 #98

And force taxpayers to pay out lost profits that result from those laws. arcane1 Mar 2015 #31

Last night I went to the WH contact site and point blank asked him why he would support this kind of jwirr Mar 2015 #35

yes any local or state drilling prohibitions will be gone Doctor_J Mar 2015 #89

K&R woo me with science Mar 2015 #10

I Wish I Was Shocked That Obama Is Pushing This colsohlibgal Mar 2015 #13

Yep. Sometimes I want to change my username to LiberalElite Mar 2015 #43

Ditto. 1992-2016, 24 years of Wall St. Banksters & Goldman in charge of Treasury, then appalachiablue Mar 2015 #69

He is a lawyer - you can pay a lawyer 1 week to say smoking is the best thing for you and LiberalArkie Mar 2015 #51

+10 appalachiablue Mar 2015 #71

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #15

But it's just a draft! rusty fender Mar 2015 #16

Lol! +1 BeanMusical Mar 2015 #83

k and r! bbgrunt Mar 2015 #17

Cockroaches hate having the light shine on them. riqster Mar 2015 #18

More people need to know about Independent Media to help end Corporate Cockroach rule now! appalachiablue Mar 2015 #74

shhh. riqster Mar 2015 #78

Call your Senators, Representatives and Whitehouse to express your opposition to this global Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #19

kr ND-Dem Mar 2015 #20

that's why they want Fast Track Enrique Mar 2015 #21

If the TPP passes, there would be no need for a Congress PADemD Mar 2015 #22

The corporations nearly have sole legislative authority as it is. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #50

True. Their reps., lobbyists are already set up in DC which is convenient. We will have been appalachiablue Mar 2015 #75

So true. Provisions like NAFTA Chapter 11 are included in TPP. Protecting investors over citizens. Overseas Mar 2015 #97

This is encouraging. Blue_In_AK Mar 2015 #23

Why is President Obama in favor? Why didn't he prosecute the Banksters and war Criminals? Vincardog Mar 2015 #36

Why did he create the Catfood Commission and appoint two anti New Deal Zealots to head it? Enthusiast Mar 2015 #52

That did so much damage, many regular Dems. who heard the Simpson-Bowels spin on appalachiablue Mar 2015 #57

Many of us will never know "golden years". Enthusiast Mar 2015 #58

Yes. Many in the wealthy US investor class, including those from our buy-partisan, bought 2-Party appalachiablue Mar 2015 #63

Obama either cut some kind of back-room horse-trading deal 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #38

What the fuck is wrong with our President?!? Utterly disgusted and baffled... he KNOWS better. AzDar Mar 2015 #26

Oh Ye of little Fatih! ,,,,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #27

O Ye of too much faith and too little reason. cali Mar 2015 #34

Thats funny! bvar22 Mar 2015 #66

Shocked at the contents or shocked that their shenanigans have been exposed? 99th_Monkey Mar 2015 #28

Clearly they just hate Obama and want to bash him with anti-Obama attacks. arcane1 Mar 2015 #30

They're racists. That's the only explanation. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #53

They won't be happy until they get their Unicorn. bvar22 Mar 2015 #68

They're only pretending to be shocked by it to hurt the president's feelings. QC Mar 2015 #33

The hopeful thing is, that there is organized opposition, even in Australia, which will also be..... LongTomH Mar 2015 #37

If the Senator from Wall Street can't spin it as glorious why are Democrats that value our votes and TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #39

They'll make a few insignificant changes and declare it wonderful. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #46

No, in no way am I investing or implying any level of trust for the Senator from Wall Street TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #67

I didn't think you were making such a suggestion. I was just saying something out of frustration. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #70

I think Schumer is objecting vocally and publicly because he doesn't want pushback against his stillwaiting Mar 2015 #77

pssh. Schumer is just responding to the backlash Doctor_J Mar 2015 #90

It's so bad that only the oligarchy loves it. L0oniX Mar 2015 #40

most transparent administration ever. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #41

Said no one ever. bigwillq Mar 2015 #61

Yep. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #42

They should not even consider voting in favor of the TTP or TTIP. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #45

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #54

K & R, TPP is an abomination to every nation, it grants power beyond nations. nt mother earth Mar 2015 #55

'the great American tradition of corporations writing trade agreements' is GOP policy. Octafish Mar 2015 #64

Someone PLEASE, explain to me why Obama is pushing this fucking monstrosity? 99Forever Mar 2015 #65

He never was who he pretended to be back in 2008 BeanMusical Mar 2015 #86

Obama must not be too worried. bvar22 Mar 2015 #72

If they public knew what was in it they'd reject it. Simple as that. pa28 Mar 2015 #73

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I'm as stunned as you are and maybe a little impressed at the subtlety. pa28 Mar 2015 #82

Schumer is absolutely right; and this is why Congress should know about treaties Wella Mar 2015 #76

schumer is feeding the public the bullshit he thinks they'll buy. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #88

The question seems to be why is Obama "pushing this fucking monstrosity?" cheapdate Mar 2015 #79

HIs entire presidency has been a corporate wet dream Doctor_J Mar 2015 #92

I might not go that far...corporations could dream bigger than Barack Obama. cheapdate Mar 2015 #96

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I seriously doubt schumer is shocked. Lip service. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #84

You mean a corporate and banking dictatorship running the world isn't GOOD? nikto Mar 2015 #87

The question every Democrat needs to ask themselves... raindaddy Mar 2015 #91