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whatthehey

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12. It depends what matters to you I guess
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:10 PM
Apr 2015

I'm certainly not trying to win more liberal-than-thou competitions on DU, or claim any unusual degree of empathy. I'd fail miserably if I tried either. I personally would probably be better off with Republicans in charge, certainly no worse off now my kid is grown and I am perforce asexual. I'm not likely to get to any NYC money-raising salons soon but I am unashamedly financially comfortable and prefer a vanilla suburban lifestyle.

But what about where I as an individual stop? No, again I'm not pretending to be a crusading liberal altruist. I've marched in parades a few times but never risked arrest or life and limb for any cause. But we are talking here about votes and donations and campaign volunteering. I do that at least, and always for Dems. Not because of what's best for me but what's best for all. Even this is not altruism but utilitarianism. Society functions better when everyone has a chance to contribute and is equipped and allowed to do so, and the basic universalization principle says that what I want the right and freedom to do should belong to others where it generates more benefit than harm. I am, I confess with no great shame, a selfish altruist in this regard, with selfishness universalized to my society as well as myself.

Perhaps the asinine "no difference" commentary comes from a belief that only, say, military spending or drone usage or banking regulations are important, and that equal rights and the preservation of some basic social safety net don't matter to people like them, or even me (because again on a purely individual solipsistic level, they don't). Even if you live such an incredibly blinkered worldview, common sense tells you that Dems have a better chance at making the right calls there. It was Bill Clinton, regularly demonized here, who started trimming the Pentagon's superfluous bases and programs. It was the piece of shit used car salesman Obama who drew down Afghan forces and signed Dodd-Frank. No matter what your shibboleths or how left-wing your purity, yoiu will always always always have a better chance of benefit AND much reduced harm (why does everyone forget that latter part?) ror them with Dems in charge. I just realize that is important not just for my own personal benefit or views but for the society's to which I belong too. What's wrong with voting for societal benefit?

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If one is privileged enough BainsBane Apr 2015 #1
'Politics is a hobby for the leisure class.' The rest of us, not so much... freshwest Apr 2015 #4
K&R stage left Apr 2015 #2
but, who is the person that says, none of this matters. it is not the important stuff. seabeyond Apr 2015 #3
It shouldn't be a Democrat saying none of it matters. stage left Apr 2015 #20
It's been obvious for a while, the distain for "SJWs" around here.... bettyellen Apr 2015 #5
I don't think it's ignorance, I think it's indifference. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #6
Some of it is open resentment BainsBane Apr 2015 #7
OK, I'll buy that. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #8
But a lot seem to think social problems are solved- have no idea how bad shit is for others... bettyellen Apr 2015 #23
They are pointedly ignoring the bedrock for inequality. Were Africans enslaved and treated freshwest Apr 2015 #16
DU rec... SidDithers Apr 2015 #9
Good job seabeyond. William769 Apr 2015 #10
These people don't care enough Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #11
that is how i always interpreted it until the comment, "what matters". nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #13
It depends what matters to you I guess whatthehey Apr 2015 #12
"crusading liberal altruist." equality is altruistic to you, then? seabeyond Apr 2015 #14
Did you actually read what I wrote? whatthehey Apr 2015 #21
reading, it felt to me like you do and you do not. you keep relegating it to insignificance, seabeyond Apr 2015 #24
same Naderite "gonadal politics" attempt to disappear GLBT and women from politics geek tragedy Apr 2015 #15
him and pauls libertarian. interesting that. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #17
Let's review some of the issues that don't really matter BainsBane Apr 2015 #18
Great summary- and when you contrast that list against priorities 1&2 - their paycheck bettyellen Apr 2015 #27
Keep in mind the great gay purge from a few years ago on DU justiceischeap Apr 2015 #19
Amen and THANK YOU! PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #22
You're welcome and thank you! nt justiceischeap Apr 2015 #25
i remember. yes. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #28
Thanks so much for articulating this so well. This is one of the most disturbing trends I've ever emulatorloo Apr 2015 #26
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