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15. same Naderite "gonadal politics" attempt to disappear GLBT and women from politics

Reply to seabeyond (Original post)

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:40 PM

Apr 2015

Gloria Steinem was not impressed.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45c/072.html

Nader is rightly obsessed with economic and corporate control, yet he belittles the movements against a deeper form of control--control of reproduction, and the most intimate parts of our lives. For example, he calls the women's movement and the gay and lesbian movements "gonadal politics," and ridicules the use of the word "patriarchy," as if it were somehow more less important than the World Trade Organization. As Congressman Barney Frank wrote Nader in an open letter, "your assertion that there are not important issue differences between Bush andGore is either flatly inaccurate or reflects your view that...the issues are not important...since you have generally ignored these issues in your career...)"

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womens rights: republican or democrat. no difference. [View all] seabeyond Apr 2015 OP

If one is privileged enough BainsBane Apr 2015 #1

'Politics is a hobby for the leisure class.' The rest of us, not so much... freshwest Apr 2015 #4

K&R stage left Apr 2015 #2

but, who is the person that says, none of this matters. it is not the important stuff. seabeyond Apr 2015 #3

It shouldn't be a Democrat saying none of it matters. stage left Apr 2015 #20

It's been obvious for a while, the distain for "SJWs" around here.... bettyellen Apr 2015 #5

I don't think it's ignorance, I think it's indifference. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #6

Some of it is open resentment BainsBane Apr 2015 #7

OK, I'll buy that. PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #8

But a lot seem to think social problems are solved- have no idea how bad shit is for others... bettyellen Apr 2015 #23

They are pointedly ignoring the bedrock for inequality. Were Africans enslaved and treated freshwest Apr 2015 #16

DU rec... SidDithers Apr 2015 #9

Good job seabeyond. William769 Apr 2015 #10

These people don't care enough Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #11

that is how i always interpreted it until the comment, "what matters". nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #13

It depends what matters to you I guess whatthehey Apr 2015 #12

"crusading liberal altruist." equality is altruistic to you, then? seabeyond Apr 2015 #14

Did you actually read what I wrote? whatthehey Apr 2015 #21

reading, it felt to me like you do and you do not. you keep relegating it to insignificance, seabeyond Apr 2015 #24

same Naderite "gonadal politics" attempt to disappear GLBT and women from politics geek tragedy Apr 2015 #15

him and pauls libertarian. interesting that. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #17

Let's review some of the issues that don't really matter BainsBane Apr 2015 #18

Great summary- and when you contrast that list against priorities 1&2 - their paycheck bettyellen Apr 2015 #27

Keep in mind the great gay purge from a few years ago on DU justiceischeap Apr 2015 #19

Amen and THANK YOU! PeaceNikki Apr 2015 #22

You're welcome and thank you! nt justiceischeap Apr 2015 #25

i remember. yes. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #28

Thanks so much for articulating this so well. This is one of the most disturbing trends I've ever emulatorloo Apr 2015 #26