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Koinos

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7. Good and Bad Trade Agreements
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 04:34 PM
Apr 2015

O'Malley made it pretty clear in his Harvard speech yesterday that he is not opposed to all trade deals, but that he is opposed to this particular trade deal -- TPP -- because it is a BAD trade deal. He did not elaborate about the power this deal would give corporations to trump governments and government regulations and a whole lot of other things. He did emphasize the effect it would have on US workers and the US economy.

I personally dislike most "free trade" agreements (including NAFTA), since they reduce the power of a nation to protect its workers' livelihoods, upon which the national interest ultimately depends. But the TPP is especially toxic and noxious and should have been smothered long before it came to a vote. It makes governments subordinate to corporations. To what or who do members of Congress swear loyalty?

TPP is, therefore, a good test of any politician's genuine democratic credentials. Democrats traditionally have not sided with corporations over workers, but I suppose that times have changed. Bernie Sanders is right to insist that democratic candidates make undeniably clear where they stand on this. O'Malley had made himself abundantly clear about TPP.

He's good with me. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2015 #1
He was FOR Free Trade before he was "agin" it apparently... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #2
Explain, please. elleng Apr 2015 #3
sigh. I'll explain this very simply (again) just for you: cali Apr 2015 #5
No I can speak for myself... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #25
extraordinarliy poorly, Mrs. Rhapsody. This is about the TPP. Duh. cali Apr 2015 #48
I SAID he supported Free Trade...and backed it up...much to your dismay.. VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #49
No dismay. Disgust at your tactics and lack of honesty. This is about the TPP cali Apr 2015 #51
Lack of honesty??? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #52
Yes. Lack of honesty. This is a thread about the TPP. Posting a quote cali Apr 2015 #55
and I replied that he previously supported Free Trade... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #56
When did he ever say he was pro-TPP? FSogol Apr 2015 #9
At least reading the OP here he isn't saying he is pro or con TPP. What he is saying is that this still_one Apr 2015 #53
So? Lunabell Apr 2015 #23
So I have never been a Republican VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #26
Good for you Lunabell Apr 2015 #27
So was I....and I still didn't become Republican... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #28
Again good for you Lunabell Apr 2015 #29
and I am happy too.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #30
Sit well in your smugness my "friend" Lunabell Apr 2015 #31
I sit very well.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #35
Obviously Lunabell Apr 2015 #40
Yes it is... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #50
You said that in every thread about O'Malley and you have been told over and over that sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #34
Not just trade...FREE Trade... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #36
He has been opposed to the TPP all along. Where does Hillary stand on this? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #39
Is than worse that being for it before she is still for it, like Clinton? nm rhett o rick Apr 2015 #47
Good point...REAL champions realize their mistakes and make corrections. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #57
I realize that the note is brief ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #4
Interesting... Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #6
Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #14
Well Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #19
Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #21
I remember when we were all against Fast Track back in the old Bush era. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #38
I don't recall a FT vote in the old bush era. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #42
I do. We opposed it, strenuously, so .... but yeah, we absolutely hated it back then. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #44
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #45
Same thing, Trade. Dems were furious, he was trying to pull something, etc etc. Which sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #46
Good and Bad Trade Agreements Koinos Apr 2015 #7
"Chasing cheaper labor abroad will not help us build a stronger economy here at home." - O'Malley FSogol Apr 2015 #8
+ 1000 mmonk Apr 2015 #10
Score on TPP: O'Malley 1, Clinton 0 [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #11
K&R. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #12
It will level the middle class Geronimoe Apr 2015 #13
Obama's last "trade deal" didn't work out like he promised. bvar22 Apr 2015 #15
thanks bvar. bbgrunt Apr 2015 #22
he knew damn well he was promising bullshit Skittles Apr 2015 #24
This is an secondvariety Apr 2015 #16
We called both Senators and our Congressman Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #17
O'Malley Thespian2 Apr 2015 #18
They don't know what their voting for. I will never support anyone who VOTES IN THE BLIND. nt Snotcicles Apr 2015 #20
exactly. Why the rush, what are they trying to hide? still_one Apr 2015 #54
This is more than enough to hifiguy Apr 2015 #32
Bernie on TPP Koinos Apr 2015 #33
ANY Democrat that votes for this, should be primaried and replaced. 99Forever Apr 2015 #37
They (multinational corporations) get what they pay for. Koinos Apr 2015 #41
Where is the bill or amendment aspirant Apr 2015 #43
Trickle Out Theory Koinos Apr 2015 #58
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