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JonLP24

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148. Oh jesus, it is different place now

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 07:14 AM

Apr 2015

Young people & most people are no longer afraid of USSR style socialism & now we know a little more than the media has kept from us. Who knows what kind of dirty tricks Republicans will be up to but certainly they have ammo when it comes to Hillary Clinton. Even if it is a fake scandal or whatever, nothing remotely resembling such a thing can be tied plus she is very polarizing with high unfavorability ratings (she has a higher favorability but about 46% unfavor her)

America voted for an African American with a middle name of Hussein and a last name that rhymes with Osama while also with a "radical preacher&quot chickens came home to roost following 9/11 was used quite heavily) & any associates they can throw such as Louis Farrakhan. The kind of people America wouldn't vote for before but you see you have the unprecedent turnouts, grassroots movements, the "Change" which many took as a real change to the political system rather than a change from Bush. He wasn't playing the middle during the campaign. Didn't follow the 2008 but Romney was so easy with his flip flops before the primary, flip flops for Governor, flip flops for President -- guy obviously had no convictions.

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In what parallel universe does a Jewish, self-described Socialist who [View all] PCIntern Apr 2015 OP

I suppose people might compare his history and stance on the issues el_bryanto Apr 2015 #1

Well you're right about that... PCIntern Apr 2015 #3

...and even then ... toss-up between a paid vacation at home and a desk job for a while. libdem4life Apr 2015 #20

The economic situation exploded under Jimmy Carter JonLP24 Apr 2015 #149

We don't stop black males from getting shot Ken Burch Apr 2015 #155

SOME people might do so; elleng Apr 2015 #9

They might....but what will you say if they decide noo....Hillary is? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #28

Well I'll say "Looks like I'm voting for Hillary in the General Election." el_bryanto Apr 2015 #41

Good....that means YOU are a Democrat...unlike some around here... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #44

Well what i would do is gloat and insult those who aren't excited about Hillary Clinton el_bryanto Apr 2015 #47

they were never on my side...thats the point! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #49

Nods - perhaps they would rather be on the people's side el_bryanto Apr 2015 #53

and perhaps they weren't that either... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #55

Lots of people vote for Republicans - i live in a state that just relected Rick Scott el_bryanto Apr 2015 #71

And that proves what? Apparently Republicans think he is on the side of the people... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #78

Yes, but you're a paranoid who believes EVERYONE is a secret troll. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #119

Did I call you one? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #120

You didn't specifically call me a troll, but yes, you've questioned my allegiance to the party. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #121

Yes....and??? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #122

No, I'm voting for Ted Cruz in 8 different states. Write that down in your little narc book. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #126

I'm not...but only to spite the likes of you. :) n/t Chan790 May 2015 #171

It's alright... Chan790 May 2015 #170

who the hell died and made you choie Apr 2015 #134

Yeah and the Billboard music awards gave mimi85 May 2015 #169

Thats the deal with me madokie Apr 2015 #118

In the generals? Yeah.... Good luck with that. n/t Adrahil Apr 2015 #150

oh you done it now.... steve2470 Apr 2015 #2

Told the truth...? PCIntern Apr 2015 #6

the truth? it's an opinion cali Apr 2015 #21

+1 His running will help the country & Hillary if she's smart. Populism is rising, for good reason. appalachiablue Apr 2015 #139

my points steve2470 Apr 2015 #66

Is there someone keeping count of how many times someone mentions Bernie being djean111 Apr 2015 #4

I'm Jewish and I'm gonna tell you PCIntern Apr 2015 #10

I'm Jewish; I couldn't give a fuck what the ethnicity/religion is of the individual I'm voting for. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #79

I'm Jewish and remember the huge excitement when Lieberman karynnj Apr 2015 #164

The part where PCIntern's family sat shiva for lost Dems is probably a big clue... Hekate Apr 2015 #15

I'M Jewish, and I mention it 'often' because I think it's relevant elleng Apr 2015 #23

elleng: PCIntern Apr 2015 #27

Not at all raising it for this place alone, elleng Apr 2015 #37

I never "got" the whole Jewish thing. (regarding some non-Jewish people) BlueJazz Apr 2015 #84

I'm with you, it IS weird. elleng Apr 2015 #88

I don't have a problem with your being Jewish............. leftofcool Apr 2015 #102

No problems. elleng Apr 2015 #104

Not bad for Manny at all MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #59

Well, Manny, I'm glad I've avoided that cave! elleng Apr 2015 #62

Or describes him as "Socialist" instead of a "Democratic Socialist", while failing winter is coming Apr 2015 #67

+ 10,000 very relevant point. One of my concerns as well. nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #86

I didn't actually know he's Jewish. Doesn't matter to me. Adrahil Apr 2015 #151

I've searched your post for some kind of point, and couldn't find one. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #5

then you better keep looking... nt PCIntern Apr 2015 #14

Nah, better to just put you on ignore. Maedhros Apr 2015 #16

Please do that... PCIntern Apr 2015 #30

lol. my, aren't you an issue oriented voter cali Apr 2015 #7

My...aren't you principled... PCIntern Apr 2015 #22

There are actually several different socialist parties. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #112

+1 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #136

I actually like that post you made cali... Adrahil Apr 2015 #153

Well said. My fears too. The 1972 Presidential election was my first one able to vote. I was a livetohike Apr 2015 #8

Ex-actly. nt PCIntern Apr 2015 #11

Note also 1939 Apr 2015 #165

Good point. I'll have to read that book. Hippies are still derided. livetohike Apr 2015 #168

I know. I *am* a Socialist, and I think people are vastly overestimating his appeal. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #12

Very well said! n/t Adrahil Apr 2015 #152

That's what they told Harry Truman and Paul Wellstone, too. hifiguy Apr 2015 #13

Ummmmm...... PCIntern Apr 2015 #17

A question: You like his positions. Are you against him entering the primary? At least those ideas jwirr Apr 2015 #50

Truman was Jewish? Wellstone didn't die in a small plane crash? Hekate Apr 2015 #18

Hekate: PCIntern Apr 2015 #25

Wellstone was Jewish. :) hifiguy Apr 2015 #29

There's only so many character spaces in a subject line. Oy vey Hekate Apr 2015 #39

Truman was pushing Civil Rights legislation way before it was politically safe to do so JonLP24 Apr 2015 #156

Yep and as a Democrat Aerows Apr 2015 #35

Damn tootin'!! hifiguy Apr 2015 #36

Absolutely, my friend! Aerows Apr 2015 #38

In the universe where Bernie's candidacy is not all and only about Secretary Clinton. Zorra Apr 2015 #19

+1 cali Apr 2015 #26

... Zorra Apr 2015 #34

+1 Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #68

But you don't UNDERSTAND 1!11!!! It's all about Hilary!!!1 Dragonfli Apr 2015 #130

I think we are already chronicling the rapid rise of fascism in this country rurallib Apr 2015 #24

+1. Country is very, very far right. Worst in 100+ years. My parents & grands were appalachiablue Apr 2015 #135

this is such a failed alert. what is it about? not that i necessarily agree with you, but still. seabeyond Apr 2015 #137

k&r... spanone Apr 2015 #31

Anywhere they choose to run Aerows Apr 2015 #32

Same universe where a biracial liberal junior senator whose father was from Kenya does Scootaloo Apr 2015 #33

+1 peacebird Apr 2015 #43

Oh...it's YOU! PCIntern Apr 2015 #45

Well played. hifiguy Apr 2015 #46

+10000000 woo me with science Apr 2015 #48

I see you have a fan club here, Scooty... PCIntern Apr 2015 #54

I don't think they're fans of me, per se Scootaloo Apr 2015 #70

You're gonna love his stance on Israel, Scooter... PCIntern Apr 2015 #96

I already know it. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #98

Oh yeah…he called you and told you all about the PCIntern Apr 2015 #100

Bernie's positions regarding israel aren't secret, dude Scootaloo Apr 2015 #101

Please provide details -- beyond that he said out Netanyahu's address karynnj Apr 2015 #166

What Scootaloo said Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #58

Bernie is running Aerows Apr 2015 #107

And whose name rhymes with "Osama" Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #123

+1 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #138

you left out "socialist, muslin" magical thyme Apr 2015 #147

I'll be voting for Bernie in the primary here in Philadelphia. GoneOffShore Apr 2015 #40

Shorter: A vote for the poorly groomed socialist Jew is a vote for Hitler. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #42

"There you go again." PCIntern Apr 2015 #51

If he's unelectable, then why are you worried about the trivial few of us who will vote for him? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #63

LOL exactly Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #81

The lesser of 2 evils have produced nothing but Status Quo Candidates in both parties Joe Turner Apr 2015 #52

Yeah...Bush v Gore reprise, right? PCIntern Apr 2015 #56

In what parallel universe does America elect a black guy president? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #57

Against Sara Palin.... PCIntern Apr 2015 #61

He beat the "Inevitable" Hillary as well. nt tridim Apr 2015 #157

I would love to see a Jewish President in my lifetime Gothmog Apr 2015 #60

I'm with you 100%. PCIntern Apr 2015 #65

I will go there nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #64

I know this nadin... PCIntern Apr 2015 #69

I am one of his fans nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #72

I'll give him my vote, Nadin Aerows Apr 2015 #108

I will vote, I am reserving who I will vote for nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #110

Is someone upset? 99Forever Apr 2015 #73

Funny, I didn't know that he had won the primary n2doc Apr 2015 #74

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is always a great idea. ucrdem Apr 2015 #75

Oh, please ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #76

That parallel universe called DU. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #77

+1 nt steve2470 Apr 2015 #95

But I should add ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #113

yep I totally agree on all counts! nt steve2470 Apr 2015 #129

It's not only parallel, but nonpareil in that regard... n/t freshwest Apr 2015 #114

Got it. We shouldn't back Bernie because he is a Commie Jew with bad hygiene. Thanks. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #80

Hey at least he is trying. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #82

Electability is made evident through the course of the campaign BainsBane Apr 2015 #83

I'll be willing to take a chance on a parallel universe with Bernie ratther than Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #85

Funny how you act so pro-Jewish until a Jewish man needs your support to run for president LittleBlue Apr 2015 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #93

Nailed it Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #124

I don't make the connection of Sanders in the primary to General Election defeat Renew Deal Apr 2015 #89

c'mon, tell us: how does a primary challenge hurt the invincible HRC? cali Apr 2015 #90

You sound so cheerful. Jamastiene Apr 2015 #91

They have been saying Bernie can't win since the 90's Mnpaul Apr 2015 #92

I only know one thing... I'm casting five votes for Bernie in the CA primary. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #94

In the universe I wish to live in. LWolf Apr 2015 #97

Well said, LWolf!! smokey nj Apr 2015 #127

interesting opinions here tiredtoo Apr 2015 #99

…and well that you should PCIntern Apr 2015 #103

Talk about a total non-issue.. We've never had a jewish president, also never had a female president GummyBearz Apr 2015 #105

McCarthyist antisemite PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #106

Yep..nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #125

Trying, really trying to give a fuck about your post . . . trying, so close . . . hatrack Apr 2015 #109

If you're in a universe in which George W Bush was president for 8 years, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #111

Wow! I mean, are you wiggying out over Bernie? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2015 #115

Get onboard with Hillary because of Sanders' hair and your prior hippie experience? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #116

Perhaps someone should define, "socialst" for the crowd in a way all will understand. Stuart G Apr 2015 #117

. Purveyor Apr 2015 #128

In my universe Autumn Apr 2015 #131

I get it, no one would elect a Jew or a black guy or a woman. Dragonfli Apr 2015 #132

God... I Do Love Satire. WillyT Apr 2015 #133

and another person goes on my ignore list. Thanks for playing the blame game. I'm done liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #140

A long haired Jewish socialist? jberryhill Apr 2015 #141

I'm sure this seems like insight to people hopped up on gas. LeftyMom Apr 2015 #142

Here we go again with the "stay home on election night" crap. Blue_In_AK Apr 2015 #143

Hair on fire strawman OP AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #144

Anything is possible. Behind the Aegis Apr 2015 #145

Well said. But about the hair... Adrahil Apr 2015 #154

Always entertaining. GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #146

Oh jesus, it is different place now JonLP24 Apr 2015 #148

Well, this is a "Christian Nation", I suppose. No Jews allowed. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #158

I'm copying/pasting this from another thread where it was also relevant: Orrex Apr 2015 #159

Lame. Scuba Apr 2015 #160

I'm enjoying the fuck out of this thread. OilemFirchen Apr 2015 #161

You are ignoring that IF Sanders got the nomination, many things would have had to happen karynnj Apr 2015 #162

I've been saying this for years.. sendero Apr 2015 #163

In what parallel universe does a primary challenge throw an election to Republicans? Orsino Apr 2015 #167

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