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In reply to the discussion: The President's Unseemly Attacks On Progressives DEFY LOGIC [View all]PosterChild
(1,307 posts)195. I think you are confusing two issues...
... negotiation procedures vs. number of participants. Most, if not all of the recent bilateral trade agreements were made under fast track authority:
Under the second period of fast track authority, Congress enacted implementing legislation for the U.S.Chile Free Trade Agreement, the U.S.Singapore Free Trade Agreement, the AustraliaU.S. Free Trade Agreement, the U.S.Morocco Free Trade Agreement, the Dominican RepublicCentral America Free Trade Agreement, the U.S.Bahrain Free Trade Agreement, the U.S.Oman Free Trade Agreement, and the PeruU.S. Trade Promotion Agreement. The authority expired on July 1, 2007.[9]
In October 2011, the Congress and President Obama enacted into law the Colombia Trade Promotion Agreement, the South KoreaU.S. Free Trade Agreement, and the PanamaU.S. Trade Promotion Agreement using fast track rules, all of which the George W. Bush administration signed before the deadline.[10]
In October 2011, the Congress and President Obama enacted into law the Colombia Trade Promotion Agreement, the South KoreaU.S. Free Trade Agreement, and the PanamaU.S. Trade Promotion Agreement using fast track rules, all of which the George W. Bush administration signed before the deadline.[10]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_track_%28trade%29
It really isn't possible to negotiate complex trade agreements parlementarily - it requires an executive with the authority to represent the national interest and who can make reasonably binding promises and trade-offs during the negotiations.
The reason trade agreements are benifical to the participants is because of the size, extent and diversity of the economic markets that are integrated as a result. The more participants, the more opportunities can be had for everyone.
The world is moving away from bilateral and becoming more and more multilateral and global. That's progress and I'm a progressive.
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I have one hand clapping...Zen...and two hands clapping...not Zen. Nail, meet Head. n/t
libdem4life
May 2015
#1
So your entire political outlook could be written in 6 lines of BASIC.
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2015
#171
I hope the Democratic Left uses this OPPORTUNITY for all it is worth:
BlancheSplanchnik
May 2015
#174
Not liberal DU? Perhaps you should read the About page linked at the bottom of every DU page.
A Simple Game
May 2015
#88
When DU was back in DU 1.0 I joined...the admin said it was for Liberals AND other Progressives.
HereSince1628
May 2015
#132
You left out Nationalists and xenophobes if you oppose TPP. Also, the 44 Senate Dems and
neverforget
May 2015
#73
I never expected Obama to act like a progressive - he's a Chicago Machine Democrat, after all.
Maedhros
May 2015
#12
So calling the Senator from Massachusetts a liar and just in it for campaign contributions is truth?
BrotherIvan
May 2015
#18
The WH has been trashing Dems since liberals ran ads against Blue Dogs years ago.
polichick
May 2015
#27
Sometimes a Prez has to come out an be truthful. Our economy is going nowhere except down, without
Hoyt
May 2015
#32
You know, you have done more to convince me that I need to leave the Democratic Party than anyone
djean111
May 2015
#109
Yet there is no evidence what these "new approaches" are and if they will help anyone.
arcane1
May 2015
#117
Sometimes it's hard to convince "rank-and-file" Democrats or Republicans of anything.
Hoyt
May 2015
#119
Unfortunate reputations of Democratic "leaders:" Just enough juice to attack their own...
Eleanors38
May 2015
#35
good question. My guess is that with the internet we would have heard the second they did
rurallib
May 2015
#46
Only the Senate Resolution of the draft is available. It's in a link in this article:
freshwest
May 2015
#165
Found 4 more, online now. Problem - big words, long sentences, complex multi-level concepts. Meh!
freshwest
May 2015
#178
When the Left is critical of Obama, bingo bango, they are "bashing". Now that Obama is being
rhett o rick
May 2015
#75
Ok, but when the progressives are "disagreeing" with him, his supporters scream "bashing".
rhett o rick
May 2015
#112
I've seen rhetoric. But NO ONE has come forward to explain how this TPP can possibly help the
rhett o rick
May 2015
#128
If you have something that isn't rhetoric, I would like to see it. But it doesn't exist.
rhett o rick
May 2015
#144
Again, refusing to accept responses doesn't equal no responses proffered ...
1StrongBlackMan
May 2015
#151
Agreed but it will be contracted out to McDonalds for $10,000 per person trained. Tax
rhett o rick
May 2015
#198
Actually, Obama's actions only defy logic if you make certain assumptions
Jackpine Radical
May 2015
#63
I think the White House owes the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party an apology!
raindaddy
May 2015
#80
It does defy logic. Every time I heard him call progressives and espcially Elizabeth Warren out I
jwirr
May 2015
#67
I don't his attacks are any more unseemly than the progressive attacks against him. nt
kelliekat44
May 2015
#85
It's not the first time this President has belittled those who supposedly are on his side, who
sabrina 1
May 2015
#96
dunno, I think its going well. all the members of congress & Sen, can read the working DRAFT.
Sunlei
May 2015
#127
Honestly, it doesn't defy logic, at all. It's the way our government works.
countryjake
May 2015
#131
As the saying goes "It's going to take a Democrat to undo the New Deal"
Dont call me Shirley
May 2015
#149
Politicians should resign when they break away from what they said to get elected.
glinda
May 2015
#154
He is going to be surprised when he goes to join Bill Clinton at the Bush Table,
bvar22
May 2015
#191
Wah wah wah.. poor little "progressives" can't handle straight talk from the President.. oh wait
Cha
May 2015
#159
The lioness has spoken! Don't hold back, let me hear you roar! Love ya, Cha!
freshwest
May 2015
#161
Too true, freshwest.. Too true! Mahalo for that visual.. my son would get a huge kick out of it!
Cha
May 2015
#163
I have to say I didn't expect the comfortable shoes to be made by children. nt
raouldukelives
May 2015
#184