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whereisjustice

(2,941 posts) Sat May 30, 2015, 12:26 AM May 2015

Hillary has a lot of negative history, what's wrong with bringing it up? [View all]

She supported trade bills that have sent millions of jobs to slave labor in Mexico and Asia, causing devistation to the middle class and below.

Her wealth has been earned by trading facile, stroking speeches to Wall Street CEOs for political access and millions in cash.

Her State Dept. legacy with Syria, Libya, Yemen and Israel has left chaos, death and destruction in it's wake.

Her history as a Walmart director (one of the nations most exploitative companies) far overshadows any fancy speeches about equal pay.

Her views on same sex marriage changed as soon as her team of advisers revealed that it was no longer convenient to speak out against it.

She's been silent on contemporary civil rights abuses against minorities, silent on NSA overreach, silent on TPP. Silent on our failed no child left behind policies.

In fact, she's been silent on just about every necessary change needed to advance the quality of life for those in the middle class and below. Who is she really campaigning to represent?

We deserve a better presidential nominee than this.

Bernie Sanders is better than this.

And this is something all the cash on Wall Street cannot buy.

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Hillary has a lot of negative history, what's wrong with bringing it up? [View all] whereisjustice May 2015 OP

Where there are legitimate concerns with a candidate, it's our DUTY to bring them up. NYC_SKP May 2015 #1

Thank you. 840high May 2015 #2

bernie will get my vote in the primary, DesertFlower May 2015 #18

I did, and was hidden by scads of members. So many that now my posts get crickets. silvershadow May 2015 #39

That makes two of us. Paka May 2015 #40

Exactly. Like Bernie Sanders, for example. Great guy, but impossible for him to win the GE. DanTex May 2015 #49

That's a baseless concept. Obama didn't have a chance either. NYC_SKP May 2015 #56

Of course Obama had a chance. At this time in 2007, he was maybe 10-20 points behind in the polls, DanTex May 2015 #57

Hillary is already sinking, Bernie rising, and he's a stronger force than Obama. NYC_SKP May 2015 #58

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #60

I already like him. There's nothing to come to. DanTex May 2015 #62

Hillary is hardly a better candidate this time around. Hillary is a distinctly poor candidate. Enthusiast May 2015 #88

People like you, continually repeating this nonsense is fueling that meme more than anything. Enthusiast May 2015 #87

People seem to forget she failed to win last time. I don't know where they expect her to pick up grahamhgreen May 2015 #74

I guess they think that everybody is similarly impressed by her whatever... NYC_SKP May 2015 #75

Too old too. Enthusiast May 2015 #86

Do you know how the state department works? Thinkingabout May 2015 #3

My guess is: not a flipping clue. nt Hekate May 2015 #32

yes. and it's not just carrying out the resident's orders cali May 2015 #41

As a matter of fact, some of us do. Her legacy as SoS is nothing to brag about. leveymg May 2015 #46

Just think about that last sentence in the snippet: Jackpine Radical May 2015 #77

Some of her biggest successes were inadvertent, if you want to look at it that way. leveymg May 2015 #79

She may very well inadvertent herself out of the nomination. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #80

It's the inadvertent effects that occur after her nomination that really worry me. leveymg May 2015 #82

Yes, you trade your influence for donations to the family foundations and high price speaking gigs. NYC_SKP May 2015 #59

"The blessing of the LORD makes a person rich, and he adds no sorrow with it." - Proverbs 10:22 Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #65

Well, when you put it THAT way! NYC_SKP May 2015 #66

May the force be with you Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #68

Sadly, the Farce IS with us. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #81

Wow. hifiguy May 2015 #84

Then don't vote for her.../NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #4

Part of a campaign is convincing others that one candidate is better than another.[n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #16

Which can be handily done by building up the candidate of your choice instead of doing oppo .... Hekate May 2015 #34

i agree as far as the primary, DesertFlower May 2015 #19

But people are busy tearing her down VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #43

It makes it look like that's all you've got. blue neen May 2015 #5

you haven't seen good things about Sanders on du??? Doctor_J May 2015 #69

The OP's question was about Hillary and negativity. blue neen May 2015 #70

Thanks for the lies and exaggerations. onehandle May 2015 #6

+1 KMOD May 2015 #7

Do you think... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #8

was this for me, or the OP KMOD May 2015 #9

I was asking you what your opinion is of the OP's strategy?/NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #11

No. I don't believe the OPs strategy is effective. KMOD May 2015 #15

+1 rock May 2015 #47

Exactly how in the heck are they going to convince the treestar May 2015 #53

it will get recs on this site JI7 May 2015 #12

But, what's new? Cha May 2015 #20

i think most of us know all that. DesertFlower May 2015 #10

The Republicans won't bring it ALL up... Flying Squirrel May 2015 #14

hillary is not perfect but DesertFlower May 2015 #17

It worries me too... we'll see Flying Squirrel May 2015 #24

Worries me too hootinholler May 2015 #63

Why bring it up here when you can bring it up at Free Republic? JaneyVee May 2015 #13

Maybe because at Free Republic those qualification might fit right in. delrem May 2015 #26

My opinion as long as it is policy related it is fair game davidpdx May 2015 #21

legitimate criticism would be fair game, KMOD May 2015 #22

I've seen plenty of posts where DUers that have a big "H" as their avatar davidpdx May 2015 #28

I don't judge people by their avatars. KMOD May 2015 #29

If BS attacks are BS attacks they should be called out on both sides davidpdx May 2015 #30

So you redefine the term 'legitimate' to suit yourself. delrem May 2015 #31

Voters are supposed to scrutinize the candidates they're asked to vote for. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #23

We had better bring it up or she will cruise to the nomination. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #25

It's been brought up. KMOD May 2015 #27

You do have that. Opinion polls show HRC is well in the lead. nt delrem May 2015 #33

I'm against a tax on retirement funds stonecutter357 May 2015 #35

What if the "retirement fund" is millions from stock dividends? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #37

You should PRAISE Walmart!!! Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #36

As soon as facts come out on HRC Unknown Beatle May 2015 #38

K&R Scuba May 2015 #42

She voted against the Central American Trade bill BainsBane May 2015 #44

In other words... sendero May 2015 #45

K&R Katashi_itto May 2015 #48

Same old, same old, nothing new here, just another day, same talking Thinkingabout May 2015 #50

I don't believe it's neither prudent nor effective to tear down your opponents... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #51

You'd do better trying to convince people to vote for Bernie treestar May 2015 #52

Exactly Andy823 May 2015 #61

You are correct I think treestar May 2015 #64

Legitimate criticism is legitimate. 99Forever May 2015 #54

The problem is, you are mixing exaggerations with outright lies, and presenting a totally one-sided DanTex May 2015 #55

It's not. Here's what KO had to say about Hillary Exilednight May 2015 #71

Yes, he said that about how she conducted the 2008 campaign, which has nothing to do with DanTex May 2015 #72

But it has everything to do with her 2016 campaign. Exilednight May 2015 #73

I find mercuryblues May 2015 #67

Hear - Hear - Well Said cantbeserious May 2015 #76

Being what some would call an almost "professional liberal" I am aware of factual differences. gordianot May 2015 #78

I don't see this as "trashing"...could those who do kindly respond if they think it nonfactual? libdem4life May 2015 #83

K & R L0oniX May 2015 #85